Ypu could argue its nearly always Australia when it comes to pushing the rules from a sportsmanship perspective. The abuse a lovely character like Murali received could testify.
The Ashes 2023
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Dan Lawrence playing in the Ashes. Feel sick.
Awful.
Awful.
Cool_Blue
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We keep shooting ourselves in the foot in this series. Has Foakes shaggged McCullums missus or something?
Don't want to upset Bairstow for some reason
trublsumtrotsky
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is taking that single 'rubbish sportsmanship' given he believed the ball was dead hence wandering off?
No if there was a mis-field and the players ran that would be well within what's normal in cricket. Bairstow clearly wasn't running a single though.
Wicket keepers at test level very rarely make errors, so that's why bastmen don't even look round when they leave the ball. They'd wait for the non-striker to alert them on the off chance there was a mistake and they could run a bye.
Stumping a player at the end of an over, when the batsman is heading down for a chat between overs, is poor sportsmanship.
trublsumtrotsky
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This gets to the crux of the problem, he had no idea if the ball was in play and didnt bother checking, he just assumed it wasnt. Despite never checking and making that assumption you have acknowledged he would still take the single had it been offered despite believing the ball was dead. You cant have it both ways. Taking the single despite having no idea if the ball is in play is fine but getting out isnt? sorry it simply doesnt wash with me.
The highlighted part is exactly why the ball is considered in play until both teams have deemed it is not and is exactly why Bairstow should have known better than to leave his crease until the ball was passed from keeper to another player or umpire had called over
Is he not out then?
I have never called to run a bye as the batsman at the strikers end. You are always called through by your partner who can see what is happening.
You are missing the point here. If there was a run Stokes would have called it. There was no misfield, so Stokes didn't react, so it's natural to think it's the over.
Everything that normally happens for the end of an over had happenned tbh. The ball was with the wicket keeper, he had fielded it cleanly, no run was being attempted, the ball was therefore at the right end for the next delivery.
The fact that they might have ran a bye in a hypothetical situation where the wicket keeper failed to field the ball, isn't really an issue as far as I can see. The ball isn't dead if someone misfields - I wish it was with some of the mistakes I've made in the field lol
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trublsumtrotsky
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The ball was in the keepers hand for 0.8 of a second not that bairstow checked or cared, would he have done it to a spinner? no, because he knows he'd be out
Trump style justifications from the aussies, those in the wrong morally will always argue semantics over context.
Needs to be moved on from now, I'm glad it wasn't us that did it and its a shame another great match was influenced by it.
Needs to be moved on from now, I'm glad it wasn't us that did it and its a shame another great match was influenced by it.
At least it lit a fire in the groins of some old tories. Can imagine their wives haven’t had a night like that since Yazz topped the charts.
Tommy Chong
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Always thought of them as the kopites of the cricketing world.
Ponting always reminded me of Stevie Me for some reason...
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