Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

[bizzaro]

Wish I never joined this thread now. Sorry to upset you fella.

Don't apologise to it Jako.

You're just making the same mistake as some that propose arming all police officers in the UK.

They're a police force not soldiers. They're their to keep law and order. Not fight hostile people (usually outside the confines of the country) under orders from the government..


By arming all police and the gradual militarisation of the police (rather than just specialised units) this military type thinking is institutional and infact is causing some of this. By what are ill disciplined officers.

I object to the words 'rules of engagement' when taking about policing.

Because its the wording used by the military when engaging a hostile force.

Police are dealing with 'suspects' and 'criminals'.

Clearly not the same thing.

 

[bizzaro]

They?

I wonder how many unarmed people have been shot this week, by THEM.

Its a mess Goat. The lot of it.

 

[Goat]

Its a mess Goat. The lot of it.

Agreed Damo.

I say we get our country back.

Few well placed nukes and send the SAS in, boom.

 

[jal123]

You're just making the same mistake as some that propose arming all police officers in the UK.

They're a police force not soldiers. They're their to keep law and order. Not fight hostile people (usually outside the confines of the country) under orders from the government..


By arming all police and the gradual militarisation of the police (rather than just specialised units) this military type thinking is institutional and infact is causing some of this. By what are ill disciplined officers.

I object to the words 'rules of engagement' when taking about policing.

Because its the wording used by the military when engaging a hostile force.

Police are dealing with 'suspects' and 'criminals'.

Clearly not the same thing.

Either that or he was asking an innocent question but didn't realise we had John Chilcot here on GOT to conduct his own investigation into Police shootings in America and give us all a TED talk on the subject of the US constitution?


Either/or, which do you think?

 

[bizzaro]

Either that or he was asking an innocent question but didn't realise we had John Chilcot here on GOT to conduct his own investigation into Police shootings in America and give us all a TED talk on the subject of the US constitution?


Either/or, which do you think?

I see you found the US constitution too taxing for you.

 

[bizzaro]

Agreed Damo.

I say we get our country back.

Few well placed nukes and send the SAS in, boom.

No goat. No.

I'm staying on the Wirral.

Lets dig a Moat Goat. Then sail off into the mid Atlantic. FTS.

World's screwed.

 

[Milk]

So they have shot two unarmed suspects this week? Dafuq

The US police have shot some 128 African Americans so far in 2016.
However if you have a gun culture, and allow citizens to carry concealed weapons, it invites a "shoot first, ask later" response.
Americans are reaping what they've sown

 

[Tubey]

Resisting arrest doesn't justify a lethal response.

A lethal response is only due legally, from a potential threat to kill.

At that point there was two officers one on top of him, another pressing his weapon into his back.

Until a firearm is in in the process of being pointed at a member of the public or a police officer there is - NO - justification for a police officer to kill a member of the public.

I didn't see any firearm, weapon or loss of control over that indiviudal and to my mind - bearing in mind I have no bias here.

That police officer lost control of his own emotions and illegally shot that man.

Through his own poor discipline.

That's just outright rubbish, isn't it? Why even type it?

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

You're just making the same mistake as some that propose arming all police officers in the UK.

They're a police force not soldiers. They're their to keep law and order. Not fight hostile people (usually outside the confines of the country) under orders from the government..


By arming all police and the gradual militarisation of the police (rather than just specialised units) this military type thinking is institutional and infact is causing some of this. By what are ill disciplined officers.

I object to the words 'rules of engagement' when taking about policing.

Because its the wording used by the military when engaging a hostile force.

Police are dealing with 'suspects' and 'criminals'.

Clearly not the same thing.

 

[bizzaro]

The US police have shot some 128 African Americans so far in 2016.
However if you have a gun culture, and allow citizens to carry concealed weapons, it invites a "shoot first, ask later" response.
Americans are reaping what they've sown

Militarise the civillian population.

Militarise the police.

Watch what happens... (see above post)

 

[jaycee]

Damo straight in with the Firearm Fair Play

 

[dandydan]

They?

I wonder how many unarmed people have been shot this week, by THEM.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-shot-chicago-over-july-4th-weekend/86707218/
I'm just waiting for the black votes lives matter protest.

 

[bizzaro]

That's just outright rubbish, isn't it? Why even type it?

It isn't rubbish though is it.

 

[dandydan]

It isn't rubbish though is it.

Why not go a step further and wait for them to open fire before using lethal force?

 

[Tubey]

It isn't rubbish though is it.

No, it really is. The act of 'pointing' a gun is irrelevant, it's the perceived risk to life which is the key.

Think about it logically and you'll understand why what you've said is chatting wham, as there's no scope for pre-emptive action otherwise.