The comments are vile, I refuse to engage with you further.
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You are vermin.
Did you read My point that I made?
[Poor language removed] you absolute bellend. Go and have a laugh over dead kids somewhere else
Lobster Johnson
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We've had this conversation. The "good guy with the gun" theory has worked exactly once and it was Nakatomi Plaza terrorist incident.
4 Eyes Better Than 2
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This fella has made his intentions clear for months mate. I only come in here and browse, rather than engage, because it’s people like him and his views that he’s so eager and deliberately shoving down your throat time and again, that it has the potential to ruining your day.
He’s here for two things. To take the piss and anger people. I hear others say it’s a multi account but I disagree; no one can be THIS vile to go back and forth with different accounts.
Don’t engage mate, don’t let this tool and his comments ruin your day.
You know the 2A was designed to defend from foreign governments, not domestic ones, right.
It gives the right to arm well regulated militia.
At the same time, there was no federal standing army and the constitution gave congress the power to regulate the militias.
The second amendment gave the people the right to bear arms in case a reserve army was needed at short notice to repel a foreign (likely the crown) invasion.
Your hypothesis about arming populations to prevent genocide is grim.
Wheeling out that hypothesis in the wake of several mass shootings is actually a bit disturbing.
TN Toffee
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There might have been a time in my life I would have been mildly sympathetic to that theory. However, in the past couple of years we’ve had a couple of high profile incidents that basically disprove it forever. Earlier this year several dozen good guys with guns milled around in the hallway of an elementary school while a maniac massacred 8 year olds. Also, in the wake of the 2020 election, when we faced the prospect of the tyrannical government they had long claimed to fear, most of the 2A die hards sided with the tyrants.
Andy, do the right thing and bin him off for good. I'm not going to stoop as low as suggesting that maybe one day the gun culture will come back to haunt him.
I would be more concerned about him being an active shooter at some point in the future.
I'm still of the view that he's nothing more than a WUM. Who, I'm not sure though.
What I always find the most peculiar part of the American psyche is their (well, the majority's) sacred belief that the constitution can't be changed - like dogma.
They appear to ignore the very important word in the name of their so sacred Second Amendment - yup, amendment, meaning change - that undermines it.
It can be changed if the constitution is wrong, which it is.
I know I bang on about this but I'm not even sure it is.
The interpretation of it is.
In 2008 the Republican SCOTUS majority came out with the Heller ruling which held (5–4) that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess firearms independent of service in a state militia and to use firearms for traditionally lawful purposes, including self-defense within the home.
This is just an interpretation of the 2A and in my opinion a completely incorrect one.
Doesn't really matter anyway. It's ingrained culture here.
Guns are owned by everyone of every political orientation, race, and class.
Responsible gun owners abhor this carry on but they don't make it a priority when voting.
Nothing changed after Sandy Hook, no one gave up their guns. Every one offered thoughts and prayers and condemned access to high capacity rifles etc.
but at the end of the day, small kids died and there wasn't the political will to stop it happening again. And happen again it did.
summerisle
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Do you think Hitler would have been able to invade so many European countries successfully if the citizens were actually armed to the teeth?
My point is not a "hypothesis". There have been studies based on the whole holocaust and disarmament of the Jewish population. Before WW2, the Jewish and other minorities had their guns taken away. If you don't believe me, you can go away and research this topic. If the Jews were armed to the same extent as the Texans, the holocaust on a mass level would have been prevented.
Nothing I've stated is disturbing. I'm offering a new perspective in which people don't want to believe in.
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