Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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tsubaki said:
TBF that does reek of doingsomethingitis - it would be most useful early on in an incident, but that is precisely the time when cops will both not really know whats going on and be under maximum pressure to find out what is going on and save lives, confront the shooter(s) etc.

To set that alert system off will require knowledge that there is an active shooter of the kind to pose a risk to the public (as in not gangs shooting at each other, someone letting off rounds in their back yard, fireworks, cops shooting people etc) and in many of these cases they won't know that (to say nothing of relevant information like description, car licence plate number etc) until some time has passed. By that point most people who this is aimed at protecting will probably have self-evacuated or heard about it on social or conventional media anyway, or been shot already.

The lone Democratic vote against (Ron Kind) said he is "concerned that a system like this could generate more chaos and cause armed civilians to rush to the scene, potentially interfering with law enforcement efforts", which is something else to bear in mind. If those armed lids turn up quick enough the confusion that would be caused could be fatal to all involved.

The only types of incidents that such a system would be likely to help with would be something like the Derek Bird type thing, where there is a mobile attacker / group of attackers and there is going to be an un-contained shooter mobile in a big enough area for people not to realise they are at risk but in time for cops to work out what is going on, who is responsible and to put out relevant information that can be used by the people who they are trying to save. It would be great to have that system in that event but it would be wildly misleading to say this would be useful in most of these horrors, which are usually over in the first few minutes.
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Agreed. What value do people think this actually provides?
 
Reports now of a shooting at the Mall of America in Minnesota, where Everton were a few weeks ago.

You absolute lunatics.

Wasn't there a numb nut on here who used to back gun freedom in the US?
 
Tucson, Arizona. police killed a wheelchair bound man. Richard Lee Richards 61, shot in the back 9 times. happened november 2021. why wasn`t this reported?something stinks.
 
Oddball said:
hello there, i back gun freedom
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I was a bit angry the other night but, why?

And by 'gun freedom' I mean as it is in some states now, where it just seems a free for all and anyone can get them.

I have no idea why anybody, in civilian life, would require a firearm. If it's for something like hunting, then fine, but they should be kept heavily regulated.
 
Oddball said:
Tucson, Arizona. police killed a wheelchair bound man. Richard Lee Richards 61, shot in the back 9 times. happened november 2021. why wasn`t this reported?something stinks.
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Think you’re onto something here, whole thing reeks of cover up, once again the cops and the powers-that-be are conspiring to…

Oh wait, hang on, it was reported all over the shop at the time.

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BlueToff said:
I have no idea why anybody, in civilian life, would require a firearm. If it's for something like hunting, then fine, but they should be kept heavily regulated.
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neither have i but i`m going to guess. criminals who want to commit armed robbery. someone who wants to protect their heroin business.
Noisy noise annoys said:
Of course you do!
It is the most pathetic thing ever, letting people carry murder toys and then complaining that people are being shot as a result.
There is absolutely ZERO reason to carry a gun as a civilian.
Blokes with little willies
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i will direct your attention to the above two examples. also, when its only the criminals who are armed and out of control, wouldn`t it be foolish to not arm yourself. - on your last comment, i haven`t heard of the gun/knob theory, is this your personal experience from owning a gun?
 
Amw79 said:
Think you’re onto something here, whole thing reeks of cover up, once again the cops and the powers-that-be are conspiring to…

Oh wait, hang on, it was reported all over the shop at the time.
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my bad!✋? don`t know how i missed that piece in The Tucson Sentinel. Duh! i bet it was world news for months/years too.
 
Oddball said:
my bad!✋? don`t know how i missed that piece in The Tucson Sentinel. Duh! i bet it was world news for months/years too.
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I don't know that there's any conspiracy to be had here, but you've stumbled onto a sad truth, which is that gun violence and police killings are so ubiquitous in the US that "only" one person being killed is unlikely to ever be elevated to anything other than a local story.
 
TN Toffee said:
I don't know that there's any conspiracy to be had here, but you've stumbled onto a sad truth, which is that gun violence and police killings are so ubiquitous in the US that "only" one person being killed is unlikely to ever be elevated to anything other than a local story.
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To be fair it was reported on the BBC, guardian, CNN, NBC, so pretty well covered. I remember reading about it at the time.
 
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