Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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That's completely insane.

Even Gun Slingers in the Wild West had to check their guns at the door.

It's beyond insane. The logic doesn't even make sense. People can point to the constitution to say they have a right to bear arms, but people also have a right to not want to be around people bearing arms in public (and there are far more of the latter than the former). The problem is that the 2nd amendment can be pointed to by folks in the former category, but there is no specific amendment for the latter; possibly the 9th amendment could be interpreted as protecting the "right to feel safe" since this amendment could be interpreted as any right that is not enumerated in the constitution (feeling safe in public universities) is worthy of judicial protection as any enumerated right in the constitution. But the 9th amendment is so vague that it has been used to argue for/against all sorts of issues.

The problem is that these open-carry folks (i.e., total idiotic gun-nuts), give a bad name to gun-owners who own guns responsibly and who would never even dream of bringing a gun into a store or classroom.
 
The problem is that these open-carry folks (i.e., total idiotic gun-nuts), give a bad name to gun-owners who own guns responsibly and who would never even dream of bringing a gun into a store or classroom.
The idea of being able to posses a firearm in the US is so engrained into their psyche, that it's almost impossible to have a reasoned debate.

I've watched a few videos of these open carry demonstrators wandering around with assault rifles, and it's as if they go out purely to antagonise.

Just because they can carry a firearms doesn't mean you should. Just like legally I can cheat on my wife, but doesn't mean I should go and do it.

The police are having to expend resources to monitor these people, and often get into trouble due to searches etc, just so they can prove a point.

Personally, I've used firearms in the past as a part of my job, but I have no desire or motive to even consider wanting to own one. It's madness!

On another note, I saw an interesting video on social media the other day which shows the locations of mass shootings within the US during 2015.

What I noticed was that they were primarily in the Southern or Western/Eastern states, while many of the Northern states had none at all.

Noticeably, Nevada was an exception to the rule which had none either. Any Americans have an idea why it's primarily a Southern issue?
 
Noticeably, Nevada was an exception to the rule which had none either. Any Americans have an idea why it's primarily a Southern issue?
Very well said in whole. To answer this question, I believe it is because the South is far more conservative. I don't like to lay down such a blanket statement like that but I really do not know what else it could be attributed to. I grew up in the "South" (most people from the Deep South do not consider Washington, DC/Northern Virginia to be part of it) and never understood the mentality.

There are numerous occasions when I have felt incredibly unsafe in Southern states because either Jim Bob comes out to greet you at his gas station with his shotgun or Tammy Lynn wears her pink Desert Eagle on her belt for all to see at the bar. It's like they treat guns as an additional limb they cannot live without, in some cases to make up for a smaller lower limb.
 
Very well said in whole. To answer this question, I believe it is because the South is far more conservative. I don't like to lay down such a blanket statement like that but I really do not know what else it could be attributed to.
Thank you for your honest opinion. I was inclined to think along those lines: the ol' North vs South divide as a striking difference in principles.

Obviously there's shootings in every state, it was just striking the increased number in shootings and mass shootings Southern and Coastal states.

I can understand that in major cities, where gun crime is heavily related to gang violence, it'll be more likely but in the smaller areas it seemed odd.

There are numerous occasions when I have felt incredibly unsafe in Southern states because either Jim Bob comes out to greet you at his gas station with his shotgun or Tammy Lynn wears her pink Desert Eagle on her belt for all to see at the bar. It's like they treat guns as an additional limb they cannot live without, in some cases to make up for a smaller lower limb.
It's inherently become part of their mindset that you must carry a gun; if not it is seen a sign of weakness against others and the government.

Also, the BBC did a new report a few months ago where they visited a gun fair and it was striking how it's also almost a fashion statement.

These people didn't have gun (arguably purely for protection) but numerous rifles, pistols and accessories. "This is my weekend gun". Pardon?
 
That is actually something that the N.R.A. use as a a counter argument against gun control.

" if the people killed during massacres had been armed, they could've defended themselves ".

You couldn't make it up.
It's utterly ludicrous isn't it. According to a government report, in 2012 there were 357 millions guns in the US with a population of 317 million.

So that is means 1.12 guns for every one member of the population. If there's so many guns already why aren't these massacres being stopped?

Obviously it's nothing to do with the fact that they're so readily available and people are so willing to blatantly use them aye?

And @Bryan, that story just sums it all up. A domestic incident spirals and the suspect decides to needlessly gun some police down.
 
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