..just seen an interview with him. Very modest lad.
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..just seen an interview with him. Very modest lad.
that's the smart way to play it, 'oh I'm no hero', he's needs to maximise this moment to get as much filth as possible out of, he's playing it right
..or he might be just a modest lad.
soz mr literal
Not sure if it was this one but I had tears in my own eyes at the end.
surprised the yankie police didn't shoot the poor lad for carrying
Nashville shooter in custody.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/us/waffle-house-shooting-manhunt/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/us/waffle-house-shooting-manhunt/index.html
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Some of the US police should take note of this fella.
https://news.sky.com/story/toronto-...-for-not-shooting-van-attack-suspect-11344703
Toronto police officer praised for not shooting van attack suspect
Footage shows the officer refusing to gun down Alek Minassian as he appeared to shout "kill me" and "I have a gun in my pocket".
10:34, UK,Tuesday 24 April 2018
Image:Footage from a passer-by appears to show police apprehending the suspect. Credit: Diego DeMatos
Dramatic video shows the officer, who has not yet been named, arresting Alek Minassian after a tense stand-off.
As the suspect shouted "Kill me," the officer replied, "No, get down."
The 25-year-old, who is also accused of injuring 15 people after mowing down pedestrians, also said: "I have a gun in my pocket." The officer replied: "I don't care. Get down."
Footage shows Minassian repeatedly pulling something from his sideand aiming it at the officer, who calmly edges towards him until they almost come face-to-face.
The suspect is then seen agreeing to lay on the ground as the officer tells him to put his hands behind his back.
The suspect is then handcuffed by the policeman.
Video:'Kill me': Toronto Van attack suspect
Mike McCormack, president of the Toronto Police Association, said he had spoken to the officer who has been left "shaken" by the ordeal, the Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail reported.
The union president said he believes the "humble and easy-going guy" is in his 30s.
Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders said: "The officer did a fantastic job with respect to utilising his ability of understanding the circumstance and environment and having a peaceful resolution at the end of the day."
He added: "They are taught to use as little force as possible in any given situation."
Mr Saunders said the officer's behaviour reflected the "high calibre" of training that takes place.
Mr McCormack said: "The officer would have been doing a continual threat assessment."
Image:Minassian appeared to point something at the officer during the stand-off
He added that the officer would have been justified in discharging a firearm, but "this officer looked at what was going on and determined he could handle it in the way that he did".
He said: "People are right. This guy is a hero."
Former Toronto homicide detective Michael Davis, who heads the security agency Michael A Davis Investigations, said: "He showed tremendous restraint. "I'm sure it took tremendous strength."
He added that he is glad the suspect is alive so he can help investigators determine a motive.
Gary Clement, a retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police superintendent with 34 years experience, said: "It's quite apparent that the suspect was trying to be executed.
"He was really looking for 'suicide-by-cop'."
He added: "Nobody knows how they're going to react. In this situation a lot of it comes down to muscle memory.
"This guy reacted in a very mature manner."
Image:Alek Minassian, 25, is due in court later
Mr Clement added that it helped that the officer had a clear view of the suspect, who was out of the van and pacing between the pavement and arresting officer.
Twitter users have also praised the officer's actions, with some suggesting there would not have been the same outcome in the US.
Richard Madan, a correspondent with Canadian TV channel CTV National News, wrote: "Extraordinary restraint by the Toronto police officer who didn't fire his gun at suspect pointing at him, couldn't see that scenario happening here in the US."
Twitter user Bobby Panahi wrote: "Police apprehends man who killed and injured dozens in Toronto without firing a shot even when the suspect repeatedly pretended to reach for a gun.
"Note to US police next time a young black man is carrying a cell phone."
Richard Madan
✔@RichardMadan
https://twitter.com/RichardMadan/status/988504320017686535
Extraordinary restraint by the Toronto police officer who didn't fire his gun at suspect pointing something at him - couldn't see that scenario happening here in the US. https://twitter.com/PaulOttoNeumann/status/988497087737155584 …
8:46 PM - Apr 23, 2018
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Ryan Paisey wrote: "The restraint shown by this police officer is simply incredible, this is what a real police officer looks like."
Minassian, from Richmond Hill, situated roughly 12 miles from the city of Toronto, is due in court later as police investigate the motive behind the alleged attack.
Mr Saunders has said his actions appear to have been intentional.
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Eyewitness Henry Miller said he saw a white van speeding at "probably 60-70mph down this major road, swerving to what I would say fairly deliberately hit pedestrians".
https://news.sky.com/story/toronto-...-for-not-shooting-van-attack-suspect-11344703
Toronto police officer praised for not shooting van attack suspect
Footage shows the officer refusing to gun down Alek Minassian as he appeared to shout "kill me" and "I have a gun in my pocket".
10:34, UK,Tuesday 24 April 2018
Image:Footage from a passer-by appears to show police apprehending the suspect. Credit: Diego DeMatos
Dramatic video shows the officer, who has not yet been named, arresting Alek Minassian after a tense stand-off.
As the suspect shouted "Kill me," the officer replied, "No, get down."
The 25-year-old, who is also accused of injuring 15 people after mowing down pedestrians, also said: "I have a gun in my pocket." The officer replied: "I don't care. Get down."
Footage shows Minassian repeatedly pulling something from his sideand aiming it at the officer, who calmly edges towards him until they almost come face-to-face.
The suspect is then seen agreeing to lay on the ground as the officer tells him to put his hands behind his back.
The suspect is then handcuffed by the policeman.
Video:'Kill me': Toronto Van attack suspect
Mike McCormack, president of the Toronto Police Association, said he had spoken to the officer who has been left "shaken" by the ordeal, the Canadian newspaper The Globe and Mail reported.
The union president said he believes the "humble and easy-going guy" is in his 30s.
Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders said: "The officer did a fantastic job with respect to utilising his ability of understanding the circumstance and environment and having a peaceful resolution at the end of the day."
He added: "They are taught to use as little force as possible in any given situation."
Mr Saunders said the officer's behaviour reflected the "high calibre" of training that takes place.
Mr McCormack said: "The officer would have been doing a continual threat assessment."
Image:Minassian appeared to point something at the officer during the stand-off
He added that the officer would have been justified in discharging a firearm, but "this officer looked at what was going on and determined he could handle it in the way that he did".
He said: "People are right. This guy is a hero."
Former Toronto homicide detective Michael Davis, who heads the security agency Michael A Davis Investigations, said: "He showed tremendous restraint. "I'm sure it took tremendous strength."
He added that he is glad the suspect is alive so he can help investigators determine a motive.
Gary Clement, a retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police superintendent with 34 years experience, said: "It's quite apparent that the suspect was trying to be executed.
"He was really looking for 'suicide-by-cop'."
He added: "Nobody knows how they're going to react. In this situation a lot of it comes down to muscle memory.
"This guy reacted in a very mature manner."
Image:Alek Minassian, 25, is due in court later
Mr Clement added that it helped that the officer had a clear view of the suspect, who was out of the van and pacing between the pavement and arresting officer.
Twitter users have also praised the officer's actions, with some suggesting there would not have been the same outcome in the US.
Richard Madan, a correspondent with Canadian TV channel CTV National News, wrote: "Extraordinary restraint by the Toronto police officer who didn't fire his gun at suspect pointing at him, couldn't see that scenario happening here in the US."
Twitter user Bobby Panahi wrote: "Police apprehends man who killed and injured dozens in Toronto without firing a shot even when the suspect repeatedly pretended to reach for a gun.
"Note to US police next time a young black man is carrying a cell phone."
Richard Madan
✔@RichardMadan
https://twitter.com/RichardMadan/status/988504320017686535
Extraordinary restraint by the Toronto police officer who didn't fire his gun at suspect pointing something at him - couldn't see that scenario happening here in the US. https://twitter.com/PaulOttoNeumann/status/988497087737155584 …
8:46 PM - Apr 23, 2018
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Ryan Paisey wrote: "The restraint shown by this police officer is simply incredible, this is what a real police officer looks like."
Minassian, from Richmond Hill, situated roughly 12 miles from the city of Toronto, is due in court later as police investigate the motive behind the alleged attack.
Mr Saunders has said his actions appear to have been intentional.
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Eyewitness Henry Miller said he saw a white van speeding at "probably 60-70mph down this major road, swerving to what I would say fairly deliberately hit pedestrians".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43799449
Sandy Hook parents to sue Alex Jones
Good, I hope they bankrupt him
Imagine your child was shot and then this prick was not only banging on about it being fake for years but actually inciting other people to leave you DEATH THREATS over it?
Those parents have had to lose a child and they shouldn't have to also contend with this nonsense
Sandy Hook parents to sue Alex Jones
Good, I hope they bankrupt him
Imagine your child was shot and then this prick was not only banging on about it being fake for years but actually inciting other people to leave you DEATH THREATS over it?
Those parents have had to lose a child and they shouldn't have to also contend with this nonsense
Right-to-Carry Laws and Violent Crime: A Comprehensive Assessment Using Panel Data, the LASSO, and a State-Level Synthetic Controls Analysis
John J. Donohue, Abhay Aneja, Kyle D. Weber
NBER Working Paper No. 23510
Issued in June 2017, Revised in January 2018
NBER Program(s):Law and Economics
The 2005 report of the National Research Council (NRC) on Firearms and Violence recognized that violent crime was higher in the post-passage period (relative to national crime patterns) for states adopting right-to-carry (RTC) concealed handgun laws, but because of model dependence the panel was unable to identify the true causal effect of these laws from the then-existing panel data evidence. This study uses 14 additional years of state panel data (through 2014) capturing an additional eleven RTC adoptions and new statistical techniques to see if more convincing and robust conclusions can emerge.
Our preferred panel data regression specification (the “DAWmodel”) and the Brennan Center (BC) model, as well as other statistical models by Lott and Mustard (LM) and Moody and Marvell (MM) that had previously been offered as evidence of crime-reducing RTC laws, now only generate statistically significant estimates showing RTC laws increase overall violent crime and/or murder when run on the most complete data. A LASSO analysis finds that RTC laws are always associated with increased violent crime. To the extent the large increases in gun thefts induced by RTC laws generate crime increases in non-RTC states, the panel data estimates of the increase in violent crime will be understated.
We then use the synthetic control approach of Alberto Abadie and Javier Gardeazabal (2003) to generate state-specific estimates of the impact of RTC laws on crime. Our major finding is that under all four specifications (DAW, BC, LM, and MM), RTC laws are associated with higher aggregate violent crime rates, and the size of the deleterious effects that are associated with the passage of RTC laws climbs over time. Ten years after the adoption of RTC laws, violent crime is estimated to be 13-15 percent higher than it would have been without the RTC law. Unlike the panel data setting, these results are not sensitive to the covariates included as predictors. The magnitude of the estimated increase in violent crime from RTC laws is substantial in that, using a consensus estimate for the elasticity of crime with respect to incarceration of .15, the average RTC state would have to double its prison population to counteract the RTC-induced increase in violent crime.
John J. Donohue, Abhay Aneja, Kyle D. Weber
NBER Working Paper No. 23510
Issued in June 2017, Revised in January 2018
NBER Program(s):Law and Economics
The 2005 report of the National Research Council (NRC) on Firearms and Violence recognized that violent crime was higher in the post-passage period (relative to national crime patterns) for states adopting right-to-carry (RTC) concealed handgun laws, but because of model dependence the panel was unable to identify the true causal effect of these laws from the then-existing panel data evidence. This study uses 14 additional years of state panel data (through 2014) capturing an additional eleven RTC adoptions and new statistical techniques to see if more convincing and robust conclusions can emerge.
Our preferred panel data regression specification (the “DAWmodel”) and the Brennan Center (BC) model, as well as other statistical models by Lott and Mustard (LM) and Moody and Marvell (MM) that had previously been offered as evidence of crime-reducing RTC laws, now only generate statistically significant estimates showing RTC laws increase overall violent crime and/or murder when run on the most complete data. A LASSO analysis finds that RTC laws are always associated with increased violent crime. To the extent the large increases in gun thefts induced by RTC laws generate crime increases in non-RTC states, the panel data estimates of the increase in violent crime will be understated.
We then use the synthetic control approach of Alberto Abadie and Javier Gardeazabal (2003) to generate state-specific estimates of the impact of RTC laws on crime. Our major finding is that under all four specifications (DAW, BC, LM, and MM), RTC laws are associated with higher aggregate violent crime rates, and the size of the deleterious effects that are associated with the passage of RTC laws climbs over time. Ten years after the adoption of RTC laws, violent crime is estimated to be 13-15 percent higher than it would have been without the RTC law. Unlike the panel data setting, these results are not sensitive to the covariates included as predictors. The magnitude of the estimated increase in violent crime from RTC laws is substantial in that, using a consensus estimate for the elasticity of crime with respect to incarceration of .15, the average RTC state would have to double its prison population to counteract the RTC-induced increase in violent crime.
Oh America, why you think guns are toys?
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Surely it is more hassle with the bits of celling/plastic you have to pick up than to just switch off the electrics and then unwire the bugger...
Or the fact he's renting and has no idea what's above that smoke alarm in the ceiling, could have water, leccy or gas running through. Absolute imbecile.Surely it is more hassle with the bits of celling/plastic you have to pick up than to just switch off the electrics and then unwire the bugger...
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