Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

[Kenshin]

So what you’re saying is the ends justify the means?

If Trump ekes out a narrow win after large - and let’s be honest, pretty open - efforts at voter suppression, then it’s fine.

Just like it was fine that Leave based their campaign on 2 huge lies (and lots of smaller ones, but I’m talking about the main 2 tent poles) because.. they won!

Everyone gets a vote. Therefore the winner is justified.

The system only fails for people when their choice loses.

So every single person has the chance to vote , whoever is there come January they are rightfully there.

 

[roydo]

Make America Good Again.

Please.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Any idea what time we start getting some meaningful results, UK time that is? Trying to plan some sleep tonight and thinking I might get up about 4 rather than stay up.

11pm first polls close

 

[Kenshin]

If after four years of Trump's blatant bias towards 'his' people you don't think a second term would be damaging then that says more about how you view the situation there. Only one party has been making it difficult to vote, legally questioning early voting and threatening to ignore the outcome if it's not favourable. If it quack like a duck and waddles like a duck , good chance it's a fascist.

Only he is a fascist and wannabe dictator.

He’s also the most divisive and utterly useless POTUS in history. The man spends his days watching Fox News tweeting out lies - 20k+ of them and counting - and playing golf. Literally all the man has got in his locker is racism and lies. He’s a narcissistic sociopath who has somehow ended up as the most powerful man on the planet. He literally doesn’t give a toss about anyone but him.

It’s got little in common with the Brexit debate which was all about people being convinced to vote for something that wasn’t in their best interest, by snake oil salesmen. This is about removing an absolute imbecile from the WH and starting to heal the wounds that the vile cretin has inflicted on that Nation over the last 4 years.

All of that may be true. And now's America's chance to right that , which seems to be grasped at in record numbers so far.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Everyone gets a vote. Therefore the winner is justified.

The system only fails for people when their choice loses.

So every single person has the chance to vote , whoever is there come January they are rightfully there.

And (just as 1 example)... all those people who vote but have their vote thrown out after the GOP went/goes to court to make it easier?
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[ChesterBlue]

Everyone gets a vote. Therefore the winner is justified.

The system only fails for people when their choice loses.

So every single person has the chance to vote , whoever is there come January they are rightfully there.

But if voters are being suppressed then by definition not everybody gets a vote?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Everyone gets a vote. Therefore the winner is justified.

The system only fails for people when their choice loses.

So every single person has the chance to vote , whoever is there come January they are rightfully there.

Only the Republicans have spent months trying to remove that right in areas where they know the Democrat vote will be high. Haven’t you noticed the court case where they’ve tried and failed to remove 127k cast votes?

Sit down ffs.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Any idea what time we start getting some meaningful results, UK time that is? Trying to plan some sleep tonight and thinking I might get up about 4 rather than stay up.

11PM UK we will start getting a somewhat clear picture

 

[Ollie d]

All of that may be true. And now's America's chance to right that , which seems to be grasped at in record numbers so far.

Which is correct and true but only when their is good faith from both parties...

 

[Kenshin]

And (just as 1 example)... all those people who vote but have their vote thrown out after the GOP went/goes to court to make it easier?
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But if voters are being suppressed then by definition not everybody gets a vote?

Only the Republicans have spent months trying to remove that right in areas where they know the Democrat vote will be high. Haven’t you noticed the court case where they’ve tried and failed to remove 127k cast votes?

Sit down ffs.

There is only ever complaints about the system when people's choice lose.

Yet what's the problem here? Trump is as you say all of these things , Biden should comfortably win. Every single American has a chance to vote for Biden.

Why the hostility?

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Only the Republicans have spent months trying to remove that right in areas where they know the Democrat vote will be high. Haven’t you noticed the court case where they’ve tried and failed to remove 127k cast votes?

Sit down ffs.

But wait, I’m sure they just REALLY care about election integrity... after all, I’m sure those 127k votes were a completely even split, 50/50 D/R, right? Right?

Also remember, the number of cases of voter fraud hit a record high in 2016... of about 12

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

There is only ever complaints about the system when people's choice lose.

well, yes... because generally when someone cheats and loses, it’s seen (perhaps wrongly, but understandably) as less of a problem.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

There is only ever complaints about the system when people's choice lose.

Yet what's the problem here? Trump is as you say all of these things , Biden should comfortably win. Every single American has a chance to vote for Biden.

Why the hostility?

Only every single American isn’t going to either get that opportunity and they’re actively trying (and will try much harder if it’s a close result) to remove the cast vote of many. Welcome to the point.

 

[Tin-Tin]

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Yes please. Though tbf, his 2016 projection was, shall we say, a little off