The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Billy Dean]

That's right. So where will all the footballers go....Spain, Italy.......

Let them, then maybe the Blues would have a chance of winning something every now and then

 

[roydo]

How do we know it doesn't?

That top maximising point is a top rate of tax of about 43% btw. Which interestingly, is pretty close to the MAXIMUM that Brown had for years and years, until 12 months before the last election when he raised it to 50%. Draw your own conclusions as to exactly why he did that.

But here is a clue; at probably every PMQs/debate/speech, Balls and Miliband have trotted out the "tax breaks for millionaires" line. Which a lot of people take. Hook, line and sinker.

 

[Billy Dean]

Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe the Tories want everyone to improve their lives but that to do so the country needs to grow and prosper..... Why does the UK generate 3X the GDP per capita of left wing countries like Russia,.....why is it that all left wing/socialist countries invariably go into major debt and ruin the lives of their populations.......why do you understand your own household finances but think that national finances are different.....its really simple really, you earn money, the more you earn the more you have to spend on health, education, social security, and so on. If everyone is on benefits, like Venezuela ( the country with the largest oil reserves on the planet), you go bankrupt. Which bit of simple economics do you not understand...........

Left wing is a broad term. Germany is more left wing than the uk and has higher per capita gdp.

 

[peteblue]

How do we know it doesn't? And I'd love for government to spend more efficiently, I'm not saying its wrong but their strike rate is as poor as you've outlined, so there needs to be a certain amount of money in the coffers in order to ensure success. Or relative success.

That's like saying, you're crap at spending money so we should give you more.......

 

[roydo]

Left wing is a broad term. Germany is more left wing than the uk and has higher per capita gdp.

True, but Germany,, or Germans, do not have the bewildering obsession with property ownership which the UK has. Which is a different debate tbf.

 

[peteblue]

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That top maximising point is a top rate of tax of about 43% btw. Which interestingly, is pretty close to the MAXIMUM that Brown had for years and years, until 12 months before the last election when he raised it to 50%. Draw your own conclusions as to exactly why he did that.

But here is a clue; at probably every PMQs/debate/speech, Balls and Miliband have trotted out the "tax breaks for millionaires" line. Which a lot of people take. Hook, line and sinker.

Precisely. Miliband and co play the same game continually and expect the same suckers to lap it up. Back in the 80's people had had enough of this claptrap and that's why they voted Tory election after election. Blair was smarter than his fellow Labour folk and tried to keep the lid on this form of rhetoric and it went well for Labour until the dinosaur named Brown rekindled it...........

 

[Billy Dean]

True, but Germany,, or Germans, do not have the bewildering obsession with property ownership which the UK has. Which is a different debate tbf.

Neither does most of Europe.

 

[Billy Dean]

Anyway, why does increasing tax and increasing spending on social services make you 'socialist' as opposed to a social democracy.

 

[roydo]

Neither does most of Europe.

Yep. Does my nut. Weird how we rejoice cos the price of something has gone up. And that is speaking as someone who has benefited very well from the housing market in general.

 

[bluemangroup]

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That top maximising point is a top rate of tax of about 43% btw. Which interestingly, is pretty close to the MAXIMUM that Brown had for years and years, until 12 months before the last election when he raised it to 50%. Draw your own conclusions as to exactly why he did that.

But here is a clue; at probably every PMQs/debate/speech, Balls and Miliband have trotted out the "tax breaks for millionaires" line. Which a lot of people take. Hook, line and sinker.

Fair enough. No need for here is the clue bit really. I'm off to sunbathe anyway. Political discourse has no place on a beach when there's a bevy of beauties frolicking.

 

[roydo]

Fair enough. No need for here is the clue bit really. I'm off to sunbathe anyway. Political discourse has no place on a beach when there's a bevy of beauties frolicking.

Haha! Really? You lucky lad if true!

 

[bluemangroup]

Haha! Really? You lucky lad if true!

Honestly. I'm praying they decide they want to try the beach volleyball located 15 yards from my towel.

 

[Mrtallywacker]

Good Lord, Team @roydo and @peteblue are destroying all before them tonight.

 

[bluemangroup]

Good Lord, Team @roydo and @peteblue are destroying all before them tonight.

Please tell me you aren't Bruce Wayne's multi.

 

[Mrtallywacker]

Please tell me you aren't Bruce Wayne's multi.

Far from it my son. I would describe myself as apolitical but I do enjoy the debates in this thread, it brings out the best (and sometimes the worst unfortunately) in people.
Anyway isn't Bruce Wayne's multi called Batman?