The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

Who will you be voting for?

  • Tory

    Votes: 38 9.9%
  • Diet Tory (Labour)

    Votes: 132 34.3%
  • Tory Zero (Greens)

    Votes: 44 11.4%
  • Extra Tory with lemon (UKIP)

    Votes: 40 10.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 9 2.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 31 8.1%
  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 91 23.6%

  • Total voters
    385
  • Poll closed .
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Says it all about this idiot.

Looking like Hitler, talking about Enoch Powell.

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load of crap really, welsh and scots did well , farage did ok second half, as did red Ed , Clegg looked like a man drowning, Dc looked tired and is in need of a new script really a big worry for his party at the moment,

Yeah I thought this too. It seemed to me like he didn't actually believe anything he said, and that he was trotting through stuff he knows he has to say to appease the rich paymasters in the city.
 
He makes some decent points to dismiss his entire input is PC driven delusion

I'm deluded? The man still thinks 1950s Britain can exist. Every single thing wrong in Britain he blames on foreigners - it's the oldest, cheapest immigration politics trick in the book.

You've got to realise that even when he does say something that is somewhat decent, it's completely null and void by the fact that his entire philosophy is underpinned by crackpot racism and homophobia. And the scary thing is, he's the closest thing to normal in that party of his.
 
I'm deluded? The man still thinks 1950s Britain can exist. Every single thing wrong in Britain he blames on foreigners - it's the oldest, cheapest immigration politics trick in the book.

You've got to realise that even when he does say something that is somewhat decent, it's completely null and void by the fact that his entire philosophy is underpinned by crackpot racism and homophobia. And the scary thing is, he's the closest thing to normal in that party of his.
Yawn

You're avoiding challenging his specific points with some bullshit PC generic nonsense as a coverall to denounce every point he made.

His point about Britain being an open book for every EU based European from a country with a lower economy is a simple fact. At the moment we're doing [Poor language removed] all to protect ourselves against the possibilities that fact presents us with, the mere presence of UKIP has forced Labour and the Tories to create policies that are far more robust in terms of dealing with the potential negative impact of our open borders.
 
Yawn

You're avoiding challenging his specific points with some bullshit PC generic nonsense as a coverall to denounce every point he made.

His point about Britain being an open book for every EU based European from a country with a lower economy is a simple fact. At the moment we're doing [Poor language removed] all to protect ourselves against the possibilities that fact presents us with, the mere presence of UKIP has forced Labour and the Tories to create policies that are far more robust in terms of dealing with the potential negative impact of our open borders.

Britain benefits massively from immigration, in terms of net gain to the economy, and in terms of their input into the NHS. An immigrant is far less likely to claim benefits or be hospitalised in the country. The effect they have on the benefit system is negligible. Net migration has fell since 2007. These are all 'simple facts'.

Here's the stats:

60% less likely to claim benefits than a native.
Better educated than natives overall.
50% less likely to be admitted to hospital.
Contributed £8.8bn more to the economy than they've taken out between 1995 and 2011.
Are responsible for 11% of health service staff and 26% of doctors in this country.

But you know what - I don't need to challenge his 'points', as he has to actually have facts to begin with, rather than play on age old fears of the 'outsiders'.

The only - and I mean only - thing Farage has ever said that I agree with is that university fees for those studying medical professions should be scrapped and incentivised, to increase the amount of UK-born medical professionals. That's literally it.
 
Scottish nationalists are left wing, Welsh nationalists are left wing, Northern Irish nationalists are left wing, yet English nationalists are ultra right wing. Why is this?

It comes down to living standards.

Here's the electoral map:

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You will notice that the purple (should be blue ffs) are mostly in affluent areas of the country in comparison to the rest.

The most telling part is in Greater London, where the poorer areas are generally Labour, and the richer areas are Tory.

The left side of politics believe in fairness for society as a whole, increasing living standards through intervention for the middle- and lower-classes, in the belief that everyone in society will benefit from a more affluent nation as a whole.

The right generally believe in laissez-faire towards business, in particular the City in London, allowing the very rich to get richer and then believing that such high end prosperity will result in a "trickle down" effect that will in time benefit the middle- and lower-classes. Basically, the super rich eat at the top table, and the more food there is, the more scraps there will be to throw down.

It might sound like I'm being harsh on the right there, but if you're looking at how the real world works, then the right wing vision is a lot more viable than the left, because for the left wing method to work, you need money to do it, and that money comes from the very top. That is why rampant socialism is an all out failure, because it doesn't have the perpetual motion required for it to work. Money feeds everything.

The problem with the right wing, however, is that the trickle down effect rarely works - once the rich get money, they then want all the money, so you see things like zero hour contracts and low wages, despite high employment, because the rich want a cheap workforce that is disposable so they can make more money.
 
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