The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Seanjd]

Is it ?

They'd been saving since i was born to send me to a better school. If you work it out from when i was born to when i finished at the school it's about £29 a week to save.

I would hardly say that saving £29 a week is mega dosh. Some people spend £29 a week on cigs. Lets try not to judge other people's wealth based on misconceptions about saving or financial prudence, eh.

Of course it is. Four thousand pounds is an awful lot of money to lots of people. As I said earlier, a single parent with a minimum wage job could not send their child to the cheapest private school no matter how much they wanted to.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Not really. There's massive variances in the cost of sending a child to private school. Some cost £4000 a year others cost £20k. I wasn't going to the latter.

On average though, you're probably looking more £4k per term than per year. It is definitely a privilege which only a minority can afford.

@roydo, agree with your sentiments, but is it ever going to be achievable to reduce class sizes and have funding similar to private schools, when there is pressure to ensure the NHS, benefits system, etc, are also funded to a high standard? It would require some hefty taxation (which I'm not against, but plausible in this country?).

 

[Azzurri]

Of course it is. Four thousand pounds is an awful lot of money to lots of people. As I said earlier, a single parent with a minimum wage job could not send their child to the cheapest private school no matter how much they wanted to.

He doesn't understand what it's like to not have everything handed to you on a plate, there's no reasoning with him.

 

[Brennan]

On average though, you're probably looking more £4k per term than per year. It is definitely a privilege which only a minority can afford.

@roydo, agree with your sentiments, but is it ever going to be achievable to reduce class sizes and have funding similar to private schools, when there is pressure to ensure the NHS, benefits system, etc, are also funded to a high standard? It would require some hefty taxation (which I'm not against, but plausible in this country?).

Absolutely.

Thing is, the key word there is average.

 

[Brennan]

Of course it is. Four thousand pounds is an awful lot of money to lots of people. As I said earlier, a single parent with a minimum wage job could not send their child to the cheapest private school no matter how much they wanted to.

Irrelevant.

I took issue with the two posts you made which were stupid, the first about kids only going to private school because of the 'status' associated, and the second being 'they only go there because their parents have dosh'. Those two statements would be as daft as me saying any family that sends their kid to state school doesn't care about their education.

I've never denied a single parent on minimum wage couldn't afford to send their kids to private school.

 

[Goat]

Is it ?

They'd been saving since i was born to send me to a better school. If you work it out from when i was born to when i finished at the school it's about £29 a week to save.

I would hardly say that saving £29 a week is mega dosh. Some people spend £29 a week on cigs. Lets try not to judge other people's wealth based on misconceptions about saving or financial prudence, eh.

£29 is not a lot now.

But your what, 20? £29 was a LOT of money 20 years ago.

I have nothing to add, I just wanted to point this out.

 

[Seanjd]

Irrelevant.

I took issue with the two posts you made which were stupid, the first about kids only going to private school because of the 'status' associated, and the second being 'they only go there because their parents have dosh'.

I've never denied a single parent on minimum wage couldn't afford to send their kids to private school.

Do private schools teach you to deem other people's views as 'stupid'?

How can you say my post about not being able to afford to pay for a private school is irrelevant, and go on to say that you take issue with me saying that only parents with money can send their kids to private schools? It's true.

 

[Brennan]

£29 is not a lot now.

But your what, 20? £29 was a LOT of money 20 years ago.

They wouldn't have had to save £29 a week in 1991 when i was born. Interest yo.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Absolutely.

Thing is, the key word there is average.

The average is indeed the key word. There are always exceptions with lower fees, but you can't say ''some tution fees are £4k per year, therefore it is not for the elite few'' when the average is more like £4k per term.

In any event, I agree with @Seanjd that £4k per year is still unachievable for most. My family needed that £120 per month which you suggest is negligible to pay bills and put food on the table.

 

[roydo]

@roydo, agree with your sentiments, but is it ever going to be achievable to reduce class sizes and have funding similar to private schools, when there is pressure to ensure the NHS, benefits system, etc, are also funded to a high standard? It would require some hefty taxation (which I'm not against, but plausible in this country?).

Well that was my original contribution. That Blair had the mandate and the cash to do just that. And didnt.

I have no idea of how much it would cost, but reducing class sizes by about 10-15 kids per class, employing/training enough ace teachers to teach them, and building some new classrooms, or adapting the original ones, doesnt seem to be that prohibitive does it?

I heard today that each Trident submarine has 40 nukes on them. Take 5 off each sub maybe? Dunno.

 

[Goat]

They wouldn't have had to save £29 a week in 1991 when i was born. Interest yo.

Well I assume both your parents have decent jobs, so it probably wasnt a major stretch? I doubt my mother could have put aside around £29 a week when she was bring me up like.

Not having a pop like lad, I know you have said the same.

 

[Brennan]

Well I assume both your parents have decent jobs, so it probably wasnt a major stretch? I doubt my mother could have put aside around £29 a week when she was bring me up like.

Not having a pop like lad, I know you have said the same.

Well my mum is on less than the national average and has been for many years. Don't know what my dad was on but again it wasn't loads.

I wouldn't say we had loads of money.

 

[Goat]

Well my mum is on less than the national average and has been for many years. Don't know what my dad was on but again it wasn't loads.

I wouldn't say we had loads of money.

Fair enough lad, I aint here to judge.

 

[roydo]

Well my mum is on less than the national average and has been for many years. Don't know what my dad was on but again it wasn't loads.

I wouldn't say we had loads of money.

Only cos they blew it on you, you monster

 

[Brennan]

The average is indeed the key word. There are always exceptions with lower fees, but you can't say ''some tution fees are £4k per year, therefore it is not for the elite few'' when the average is more like £4k per term.

In any event, I agree with @Seanjd that £4k per year is still unachievable for most. My family needed that £120 per month which you suggest is negligible to pay bills and put food on the table.

I'm not going to bother talking about this with you if you're just going to make things up.

I never said it was negligible. I said that £29 a week is not a load of money, in my opinion. Fairly big difference.