Thank you Mr Kenwright!!!

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It could be worse.


It could be a whole lot worse.


Think about that.

That's exactly the attitude that lumbered us with David Moyes for so long.

Always aim for better. If you settle for second best, you can never achieve anything other than that.

Kenwright isn't the optimum solution for our club. Therefore, we should be looking for better.

The days of scare tactics are behind us. We're no longer "plucky little Everton", so we shouldn't settle for a "plucky little chairman".
 
That's exactly the attitude that lumbered us with David Moyes for so long.

Always aim for better. If you settle for second best, you can never achieve anything other than that.

Kenwright isn't the optimum solution for our club. Therefore, we should be looking for better.

The days of scare tactics are behind us. We're no longer "plucky little Everton", so we shouldn't settle for a "plucky little chairman".

Well not quite but I get your point.

Managers are one thing thought while Chairmen are something entirely different.
 
That's exactly the attitude that lumbered us with David Moyes for so long.

Always aim for better. If you settle for second best, you can never achieve anything other than that.

Kenwright isn't the optimum solution for our club. Therefore, we should be looking for better.

The days of scare tactics are behind us. We're no longer "plucky little Everton", so we shouldn't settle for a "plucky little chairman".


Agree with that, even tho' I'm giving Bill until the end of the summer until I reconsider my support.


Managers are one thing thought while Chairmen are something entirely different.

Agree with that too...and our chairman especially as he doesn't interfere with the managing or team affairs at all.
 
Really don't agree with this 'Thank Bill for choosing Martinez' stuff.

The list of interviewed candidates included Weir, Stubbs, Neville, Rangnick, and Martinez.

It doesn't take much intelligence whatsoever to narrow that down to two obvious front runners (Here's a hint, the ones who actually have top level managerial experience).

From there it's a straight 50/50 between Martinez and Rangnick.

Lets not act as if Bill chose Martinez from a list of top candidates, or that he plucked him from obscurity managing some Sunday league team.

EDIT: Forgot about Pereira, but even then, it's between three. Only one of whom had managed in the Premier League.
 
That's exactly the attitude that lumbered us with David Moyes for so long.

Always aim for better. If you settle for second best, you can never achieve anything other than that.

Kenwright isn't the optimum solution for our club. Therefore, we should be looking for better.

The days of scare tactics are behind us. We're no longer "plucky little Everton", so we shouldn't settle for a "plucky little chairman".

I completely agree with that but would just add we don't need to vilify Kenwright in the process. He doesn't have the cash to take us to the next level and we'd like someone that could. That's all.
 
Really don't agree with this 'Thank Bill for choosing Martinez' stuff.

The list of interviewed candidates included Weir, Stubbs, Neville, Rangnick, and Martinez.

It doesn't take much intelligence whatsoever to narrow that down to two obvious front runners (Here's a hint, the ones who actually have top level managerial experience).

From there it's a straight 50/50 between Martinez and Rangnick.

Lets not act as if Bill chose Martinez from a list of top candidates, or that he plucked him from obscurity managing some Sunday league team.

EDIT: Forgot about Pereira, but even then, it's between three. Only one of whom had managed in the Premier League.

That's a very glass half empty approach.

In 14 years he's picked great managers for the club. That's all that needs to be said. Many people thought picking Martinez was a risk seeing how his Wigan team couldn't defend and got handsomely relegated. There was also tonnes of analysis as to how Martinez had under-performed the likes of Steve Bruce at Wigan.
 
The team started to look jaded around Jan last year (when we were in the top 4 as well btw). We desperately needed some re-enforcements to help a Champions League bid. Nothing happened but Fer's 'failed' medical. Just dont get your hopes up that we wont see something very similar again.
 
Really don't agree with this 'Thank Bill for choosing Martinez' stuff.

The list of interviewed candidates included Weir, Stubbs, Neville, Rangnick, and Martinez.

It doesn't take much intelligence whatsoever to narrow that down to two obvious front runners (Here's a hint, the ones who actually have top level managerial experience).

From there it's a straight 50/50 between Martinez and Rangnick.

Lets not act as if Bill chose Martinez from a list of top candidates, or that he plucked him from obscurity managing some Sunday league team.

EDIT: Forgot about Pereira, but even then, it's between three. Only one of whom had managed in the Premier League.
I think you understimate the draw of a club consistently in the top 4-8th position in the Premier League. Especially one that pays the sort of wages Everton did for Moyes.
Everton could poach from the majority of the worlds managers, not just the few you mentioned, and he went for Martinez. Therefore, despite needing to go, despite all his faults... Its well done Bill, good choice.. again.
 
That's a very glass half empty approach.

In 14 years he's picked great managers for the club. That's all that needs to be said. Many people thought picking Martinez was a risk seeing how his Wigan team couldn't defend and got handsomely relegated. There was also tonnes of analysis as to how Martinez had under-performed the likes of Steve Bruce at Wigan.


Aye...there is more to a manager than his career stats. I think Bill liked his philosophy, likes his positive energy, and was impressed with how he would be capable of completely taking over, hitting the ground running.

These are impressions you only really appreciate during a lengthy job interview.

I was, perhaps naively, on Team Pereira...but he may have flopped badly.
 
Aye...there is more to a manager than his career stats. I think Bill liked his philosophy, likes his positive energy, and was impressed with how he would be capable of completely taking over, hitting the ground running.

These are impressions you only really appreciate during a lengthy job interview.

I was, perhaps naively, on Team Pereira...but he may have flopped badly.

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Aye...there is more to a manager than his career stats. I think Bill liked his philosophy, likes his positive energy, and was impressed with how he would be capable of completely taking over, hitting the ground running.

These are impressions you only really appreciate during a lengthy job interview.


I was, perhaps naively, on Team Pereira...but he may have flopped badly.

Surely that proves the point....

He was the best choice and the most obvious compared to the other candidates.

I'll give him Moyes, that was a brilliant appointment, but Martinez ? Nah. He was just doing his job and picking the most logical option.
 
Surely that proves the point....

He was the best choice and the most obvious compared to the other candidates.

I'll give him Moyes, that was a brilliant appointment, but Martinez ? Nah. He was just doing his job and picking the most logical option.


I wasn't convinced by Martinez, but Bill was. Bill put me right.

I guess if you was already convinced by Martinez during the speculation phase then he always seemed like the natural choice to you.
 
Surely that proves the point....

He was the best choice and the most obvious compared to the other candidates.

I'll give him Moyes, that was a brilliant appointment, but Martinez ? Nah. He was just doing his job and picking the most logical option.

Sorry but I just can't agree with that.

I don't have the stats to hand but wasn't Moyes something crazy like sitting somewhere between 10th and 15th in the best paid managers list across the globe? And a new manager would be taking over a settled, established team with a chairman that would give him a fair amount of time. But Kenwright went for the manager from Wigan that had just got relegated?

In the circumstances the logical thing would have been to go for an established manager to try and carry on what Moyes had did (with all our issues of lack of funding). The safe cop-out option would have been an ex-Blue or even Steve bloody Round as some kind of dynasty route.
 
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