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lordy - It is true, an EPL club has been taken over, we just don't know who yet

OK, I apologise, I went through the thread and didn't see confirmation everywhere. For those of us getting out of bed for the first time, can you repost the link that confirmed it?
 


Everyone seems to be still assuming the following:

(1) That the statement is true;
(2) That the subsequent reports provide some sort of collaboration - every single one starts with "A premier league club has been bought - says a UAE news agency" - i.e. they arew just repeating what the original report said.
(3) That the new backers intend to follow the Chelsea/City model of a toy football club, rather than the Newcastle/Villa/Pompey (twice)/West Ham (3 times)/Sunderland/etc etc etc method of investing in a club with the intention of making a long term profit.

I'm hoping for a good result like the rest of you, but don't count chickens etc.

We've been down this road once before with you haven't we? I see you've now, though, taken Villa out of the special one-off category you previosly had them in and now lump them in with the leveraged buyout brigade of borderline extortionists. The fact is, whatever the terms of a takeover, the eventual buyer of Everton will get something out of it - be it a platform or the hope of turning an eventual profit - and the club will move into a new phase of its history looking to maximise its commercial potential. I think we all accept the inevitabilty of this. Well, almost all.

You're just trying to scare people with the notion that all change is a bad thing: it can turn Everton into a 'toy club' or one that's getting 'squeezed'. You seem to want Bill Kenwright in charge full stop and to bumble along as an also ran.
 
I'd say it's 99.9% guaranteed that a club has been bought, 50-50 on whether it's us or not

It's way more than a one in a thousand chance that the reports aren't true. Even the Sun don't see enough evidence to report it as a fact (and indeed a SUN EXCLUSIVE).
 
We've been down this road once before with you haven't we? I see you've now, though, taken Villa out of the special one-off category you previosly had them in and now lump them in with the leveraged buyout brigade of borderline extortionists.

It wasn't meant to be a list of terrible clubs, it was a list of clubs that weren't toy clubs who haven't had automatic success. My stance on Villa hasn't changed - Lerner has run that club exactly like Kenwright has run Everton. He started out with zero debts in the club, and borrowed money to fund the purchase of players.

This summer, it's well known that Villa aren't spending and their chairman talks about running the club is a "sustainable" fashion. That isn't bad compared to Everton - it's exactly the situation we are in - but people are going crazy in this thread as if ANY buyout must (with 100% certainty) mean we will have billions to spend. I'm trying to moderate expectations to something more reasonable.

You're just trying to scare people with the notion that all change is a bad thing

You are trying to paint me as the one with the extremist view?

No, I just believe that not all change is good. Some is good, some is bad. A lot of people believe that literally anybody with money will be better than Kenwright.

You ignored my "I'm hoping for a good result just like everyone else" comment. I'm in favour of the right buyer. I'm not going to assume that somebody is the correct buyer just because they were born within sight of an oil well. I'll be hopeful for the future if we did get bought out - but I won't be celebrating the 2011/2012 Champions league trophey this week.

You seem to want Bill Kenwright in charge full stop and to bumble along as an also ran.

Yes Dave, I want Kenwright to bumble along like an also ran.

For the last time, I'm not pro-kenwright. I'm just anti-anybody-who-isn't-in-the-clubs-interest. I'd be anti Ashley, anti-Icelandic banks, anti-Glazier, anti-Liverpool-duo, anti-Pompey's owners. I'd be pro Abramovich, pro City's owners. Lerner, I don't see the difference between what we have.


What I will say is that some are very against Kenwright for not selling the club. Personally, I think Kenwright should only sell to the right person. If we are reaching the end, Kenwright should be judged on this decision. If he held onto the club for years, then sells to the wrong man, then that should be history's final damning judgement on Kenwright.
 

I've just read almost all of this thread, yet so far we don't know what this guy thinks of pineapple on pizza. Lets focus on the issue here chaps.
 
You ignored my "I'm hoping for a good result just like everyone else" comment. I'm in favour of the right buyer. I'm not going to assume that somebody is the correct buyer just because they were born within sight of an oil well. I'll be hopeful for the future if we did get bought out - but I won't be celebrating the 2011/2012 Champions league trophey this week.


For the last time, I'm not pro-kenwright. I'm just anti-anybody-who-isn't-in-the-clubs-interest. I'd be anti Ashley, anti-Icelandic banks, anti-Glazier, anti-Liverpool-duo, anti-Pompey's owners. I'd be pro Abramovich, pro City's owners. Lerner, I don't see the difference between what we have.

That's disingenuous. 'Toy club' has a lot of value attached to it. You're rowing back a bit here.


What I will say is that some are very against Kenwright for not selling the club. Personally, I think Kenwright should only sell to the right person. If we are reaching the end, Kenwright should be judged on this decision. If he held onto the club for years, then sells to the wrong man, then that should be history's final damning judgement on Kenwright.

Regardless of who he eventually sells his stake to this Kewnright decade will be remembered as a series of missed commercial opportunities. His legacy is already written as far as I'm concerned.
 

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