T20 World Cup

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Great win for Namibia, wonderful story as they really are a minnow even amongst the associate nations, this being the first ever time they've qualified for anything remotely near this standard of tournament.

Scotland would have had high hopes of beating the debutant no hopers but proved that football isn't the only sport they're pretty awful at. Tbf their captain with the South African sounding name had to sit this out but they'll now be very confident they'll end up losing every single match in this group.

The performance of Bangladesh against England was nothing short of shambolic and desperately poor. Bangladesh aren't newcomers to international cricket tournaments anymore, they are a side packed with experience and some talent. To be taken apart so easily points to their cricket going backwards at a rate of knots. So many years experience should mean far greater competence and a more competitive side, instead Bangladesh seem to be travelling in reverse. Perhaps their full membership of the international cricket fraternity should be reversed and they should revert to associate member status once again.

They are just shocking and have shown a quite appalling lack of progress
 
Disagree. The t20 in 2005 set the tone for the ashes
In 2005 the T20 team who played Australia in the only one-off T20 international (there was no T20 series) was mostly made up of test players who played both formats, this is no longer the case, even the personnel are almost entirely different.

A few like Woakes now play both but he's not always in the T20 team and an exception rather than the norm.

I can think of only Bairstow, Buttler Woakes and Malan who may play the Ashes and this T20. if Wood plays he will be another although is likely to replace Woakes if he did (which would mean Woakes wouldn't play both)

With Ali and Rashid now solely white ball. Seven out of the eleven won't be playing the ashes

Roy, Morgan, Livingstone, Ali, Jordan, Rashid and Mills won't.

So seven won't and four of the team may do both and that's besides the formats now being so different games. 2005 and now are almost like two different eras and attitudes to white ball cricket have completely changed. The white ball team and test team are now treated as almost two entirely different teams playing two very different forms of the game.

There's another crucial difference too, in 2005 the date of the T20 one off international was much closer to the start of the test series and taking place on the same tour in the same country. This too is now just not the case meaning even any psychological effect is far less
 
Great win for Namibia, wonderful story as they really are a minnow even amongst the associate nations, this being the first ever time they've qualified for anything remotely near this standard of tournament.

Scotland would have had high hopes of beating the debutant no hopers but proved that football isn't the only sport they're pretty awful at. Tbf their captain with the South African sounding name had to sit this out but they'll now be very confident they'll end up losing every single match in this group.

The performance of Bangladesh against England was nothing short of shambolic and desperately poor. Bangladesh aren't newcomers to international cricket tournaments anymore, they are a side packed with experience and some talent. To be taken apart so easily points to their cricket going backwards at a rate of knots. So many years experience should mean far greater competence and a more competitive side, instead Bangladesh seem to be travelling in reverse. Perhaps their full membership of the international cricket fraternity should be reversed and they should revert to associate member status once again.

They are just shocking and have shown a quite appalling lack of progress
Maybe we should reverse the full membership of the West Indies. In fact, let’s just end International Cricket because every nation performs poorly at times.
 
Maybe we should reverse the full membership of the West Indies. In fact, let’s just end International Cricket because every nation performs poorly at times.

Bangladesh aren't a like for like case with reigning T20 world champions West Indies. Bangladesh have been in decline for some time and as a far more recently promoted country from associate level, their progress towards being more competitive is far more important as they have no recent history of major finals or cup wins as West Indies do for example.

Their progress is far more aligned with Sri Lanka who were made a full member directly before them and have won world cups and been extremely competitive since.
 
Great win for Namibia, wonderful story as they really are a minnow even amongst the associate nations, this being the first ever time they've qualified for anything remotely near this standard of tournament.

Scotland would have had high hopes of beating the debutant no hopers but proved that football isn't the only sport they're pretty awful at. Tbf their captain with the South African sounding name had to sit this out but they'll now be very confident they'll end up losing every single match in this group.

The performance of Bangladesh against England was nothing short of shambolic and desperately poor. Bangladesh aren't newcomers to international cricket tournaments anymore, they are a side packed with experience and some talent. To be taken apart so easily points to their cricket going backwards at a rate of knots. So many years experience should mean far greater competence and a more competitive side, instead Bangladesh seem to be travelling in reverse. Perhaps their full membership of the international cricket fraternity should be reversed and they should revert to associate member status once again.

They are just shocking and have shown a quite appalling lack of progress
Bangladesh have just beaten Australia 4-1 in a T20 series.
 
Australia has won the toss and will bowl against Sri Lanka. Has every team that has won the toss put in the opposition ?
 
Bangladesh have just beaten Australia 4-1 in a T20 series.

I know in a home series they can be competitive on their wickets but it really is the world cup and not individual bilateral series on which you're on the world stage and judged accordingly.

All kinds of different factors in bilateral series, not least home advantage, which can be very considerable if the conditions are alien to the visitors and obviously which team members are actually touring or missing out.

In the big tournaments, nearly all players want to be available and home advantage is often not so great even if where it's played is still a factor.

Scotland beat an England XI before the 50 overs world cup but you look more closely and it was an inconsequential game for England with hardly anyone of note available. England won the world cup and players were available and performed.
 
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