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Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

I mean Schar plays literally every week for a side that's loads better than us so he wouldn't be coming here to sit on the bench anyway and is fairly obviously considerably better than Keane, but that's not really the point. I was just saying the basic theory isn't a bad one, picking up some squad fillers for free or very low fees and trying to use the money available on fewer but higher quality players may be a better option than diluting the quality by trying to bring in quantity. It's something Moyes did a lot in his first spell too.
Just because they are a better team, doesn’t mean they have a better player in every position. So you think if we got schar he’d be a first choice next season ?? I just think he’d want a 2yr deal, decent wage big signing on fee, I’m not so sure it would be a cheap deal. And the following summer summer we’d have him at 34 and Tarkowski out of contract and Branthwaite probably moving on. I’d be looking at a young CB With potential. In midfield with Garner and Tim and hopefully With gana staying, then we may need a bit more experience in midfield, again that wouldn’t be brownhill for me, i think we need a starter in midfield, so go and get a 25/26 yr old who goes straight in.

I do get the logic, but I do think With TFG not wanting to spend on older players, I think if we do get the odd older one, it will be a starter In that position
 

Brighton are the obvious example we should follow, at least while we are building our way back to being viewed as a serious club. Buy young, sell for a big profit and have a replacement ready to go when the time comes.

Easy to look at Newcastle and Villa and say why don't we just do that but we aren't there yet, not this summer at least. We have a lot more work to do to revitalise our squad than they did, and we are still dealing with financial constraints.

We have experience running through the spine of the team already with Pickford, Tarkowski and Gana. Add 2 or 3 more senior pro's max and then I really think we should be mostly looking at players around Branthwaites age to fill out the rest of the team. The sheer number of players we need to sign, I think we would struggle to fill all of those squad places with players aged 24-30 who are actually worth having.

Also, while we talk about Brighton

They spent £346m over there first 4 seasons as a Premier League club, recouping £41m in that time, we cant do that.
 
Some cheeky but unpopular suggestions for free transfers next season that people probably wont like

Kyle Walker Peters (27) - out of contract, but knows the PL inside out, experienced and seems a solid pro
Josh Brownhill (29) - Box to box midfielder in a similar mold to McGinn at Villa, has got better with age
Tariq Lamptey (24) - speed demon who i would imagine Moyes would use on the wing instead of fullback, a cheap squad replacement for Linstrum? Injuries a concern
Nelson Semedo (31) - Another with plenty of Prem experience, and captain of Wolves
Fabian Schar (33) - An upgrade on Michael Keane (if we don't sign a new contract with him), good ball player, which Moyes seems to like from his centre backs
Reinildo (31) Marauding left back with a fieriness to as well, could picture him at Forest or Villa
Vladimir Coufal (32) We have all seen the links
Bright Osaayi Samuel (27) Former QPR winger turned into a full back at Turkey
Tyrys Dolan (23) Hard working grafter with an good eye to nick a goal here and there, upgrade on Harrison
CJ Egan Riley (22) Not signed a contract yet at Burnley, England under 21 international, part of a solid back line this season

Now 7 of that list are all full backs, obviously you wouldn't go for everyone

With our record of our fullbacks always getting injured, I'd sign all 7 mate!
 

What have they won?

Newcastle have won the League Cup and made Champions League
Aston Villa are in an FA Cup Semi Final and are in the Champions League
West Ham won a European Trophy

All clubs with similar stature as ourselves and have also had troubles previously, i'd rather follow any of there examples and actually achieve something than celebrate fleecing Chelsea for some South American every 18 months

Also, while we talk about Brighton

They spent £346m over there first 4 seasons as a Premier League club, recouping £41m in that time, we cant do that.
Brighton are a tinpot club with a tiny fanbase who have managed to get themselves regularly competing for Europe, while also regularly getting the better of the big money pl teams in transfer negotiations.

Newcastle and Villa are 2 of the richest clubs in the world and both hit a wall in terms of what they were able to spend, despite starting from a better position than we are currently in, in terms of both squad ability and PSR wiggle room.

90% of clubs in the world are looking at Brighton and saying how can we emulate that model. Not saying its easy or that we have the means to do it as effectively as they have, but if we are smart I do think that the next couple of years we should be looking to do business like Brighton and Bournemouth as opposed to Newcastle and Villa. I think we will have to take that approach while we are getting our finances back on track.

Newcastle and Villa made the step up by signing players that were levels above what they had. Isak, Guimaraes, Diaby, Bailey etc. I can't see how we could afford those kind of signings this summer.
 
Just because they are a better team, doesn’t mean they have a better player in every position. So you think if we got schar he’d be a first choice next season ?? I just think he’d want a 2yr deal, decent wage big signing on fee, I’m not so sure it would be a cheap deal. And the following summer summer we’d have him at 34 and Tarkowski out of contract and Branthwaite probably moving on. I’d be looking at a young CB With potential. In midfield with Garner and Tim and hopefully With gana staying, then we may need a bit more experience in midfield, again that wouldn’t be brownhill for me, i think we need a starter in midfield, so go and get a 25/26 yr old who goes straight in.

I do get the logic, but I do think With TFG not wanting to spend on older players, I think if we do get the odd older one, it will be a starter In that position
No not at all, I'm just saying he wouldn't swap being a guaranteed starter at a better (and richer) side for being on the bench here. It's not really a controversial take I don't think. Like I said, my point is not about Schar, it's about the general idea; You said it would make no sense, I'm just pointing out why it could (not necessarily would).
 
No not at all, I'm just saying he wouldn't swap being a guaranteed starter at a better (and richer) side for being on the bench here. It's not really a controversial take I don't think. Like I said, my point is not about Schar, it's about the general idea; You said it would make no sense, I'm just pointing out why it could (not necessarily would).
Schar is woeful
 
Brighton are a tinpot club with a tiny fanbase who have managed to get themselves regularly competing for Europe, while also regularly getting the better of the big money pl teams in transfer negotiations.

Newcastle and Villa are 2 of the richest clubs in the world and both hit a wall in terms of what they were able to spend, despite starting from a better position than we are currently in, in terms of both squad ability and PSR wiggle room.

90% of clubs in the world are looking at Brighton and saying how can we emulate that model. Not saying its easy or that we have the means to do it as effectively as they have, but if we are smart I do think that the next couple of years we should be looking to do business like Brighton and Bournemouth as opposed to Newcastle and Villa. I think we will have to take that approach while we are getting our finances back on track.

Newcastle and Villa made the step up by signing players that were levels above what they had. Isak, Guimaraes, Diaby, Bailey etc. I can't see how we could afford those kind of signings this summer.

as we have new, better, richer cleverer owners and BMD
 
as we have new, better, richer cleverer owners and BMD
I'm fully expecting TFG to get our finances in order and go splash some serious money in the next few years. Even this summer we will spend big, but there's so much to do. This isn't the year to try and sign our Isak.

If there's a lesson to be taken from the Moshiri era it's that patience is key.
 

Brighton are a tinpot club with a tiny fanbase who have managed to get themselves regularly competing for Europe, while also regularly getting the better of the big money pl teams in transfer negotiations.

Newcastle and Villa are 2 of the richest clubs in the world and both hit a wall in terms of what they were able to spend, despite starting from a better position than we are currently in, in terms of both squad ability and PSR wiggle room.

90% of clubs in the world are looking at Brighton and saying how can we emulate that model. Not saying its easy or that we have the means to do it as effectively as they have, but if we are smart I do think that the next couple of years we should be looking to do business like Brighton and Bournemouth as opposed to Newcastle and Villa. I think we will have to take that approach while we are getting our finances back on track.

Newcastle and Villa made the step up by signing players that were levels above what they had. Isak, Guimaraes, Diaby, Bailey etc. I can't see how we could afford those kind of signings this summer.
Newcastle were bottom of the league when the Saudi's took over. Guimares cost the same as Onana.

Brighton regularily competing for europe is fine. Just like southampton used too, until they ran out of players to replace the sales.

Villa & Newcastle have eclipsed anything Brighton will do under that model
 
There's potentially solid logic in bringing in a few experienced players to 'sit on the bench' (or give squad depth, more accurately) if it allows you to spend the proper money on the right players. Realistically we can only make the budget stretch so far, so we have to either be very creative or accept that we can't necessarily jump straight to buying the type of players we want. Theoretically, bringing in a few cheaper players who add experience and don't mind not being first choice isn't a bad idea if it frees up money to buy genuine quality for the positions you really want it.

This is also the paradigm where I felt the potential to tie down say a DCL may re emerge. He has virtually zero amortisation cost, and reasonably low wages and you do need a bit of a squad.

It's sort of why I can see us looking at Noorgaard.

It's funny, as footballers don't go dead at 30. There's generally a decline, but that can be sharper or slower for certain players.
 
This is also the paradigm where I felt the potential to tie down say a DCL may re emerge. He has virtually zero amortisation cost, and reasonably low wages and you do need a bit of a squad.

It's sort of why I can see us looking at Noorgaard.

It's funny, as footballers don't go dead at 30. There's generally a decline, but that can be sharper or slower for certain players.
Unless you're Raheem Sterling.

Or Dele.

Unprecedented falls from grace.
 
This is also the paradigm where I felt the potential to tie down say a DCL may re emerge. He has virtually zero amortisation cost, and reasonably low wages and you do need a bit of a squad.

It's sort of why I can see us looking at Noorgaard.

It's funny, as footballers don't go dead at 30. There's generally a decline, but that can be sharper or slower for certain players.

…I think attitude and character is often as important as physicality with older players. More specifically, if playing the game still matters to them or whether supreme wealth and a step down takes the edge off their game.
 

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