And Palace...and Brighton something Liverpool couldn't do
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Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
The mid table managers who have a good record against the top sides are the same managers who are losing badly at home to other mid table teams regularly. If they beat all the sides below them and regularly beat the top sides then they’d be flying at the top of the league.
It’s the balance equation that too many fans just don’t seem to understand. The very counterattacking high press football that might get a team a win at Stamford Bridge or the Emirates is also the exact sort of football that might see you lose 4-0 at home to a bottom 3 team, or perhaps get absolutely caned by your local rival on your own patch. Everton fans would never accept that type of result.
Equally Moyes in his first period with us built a team that could get on the ball, hold possession, build up play, and create chances through Baines Pienaar Osman Arteta Cahill Yakubu etc. It meant we could outplay lesser teams at Goodison quite easily at times in a manner not seen since but the challenge is it’s very difficult to play this way and dominate top teams away from home.
If you want a team that can do both we need players that can play with the ball but also have the pace and power to play without it and counter at top teams. Those players cost serious money, money Everton haven’t had for about 28 of the last 30 seasons.
davids
Player Valuation: £70m
Don't think we should expect any different this time. If we beat the teams we should at home and get away wins at the eventual bottom 4-6 teams that should get us around the duff European Conference position and that's really his level. I'd be happy enough with that.
Mr Happy
Player Valuation: £30m
5 home wins this season or something like that. Big "if" !!
I think that's a slightly different argument. Obviously if you're midtable then by definition your results are going to be mixed, but I don't think it's necessarily as clear cut as the style of play suiting one type of game but not another.
Both Everton as a club and Moyes as a manager do seem to have a real problem going away to the 'big' clubs. It's weird, I can't explain it, but it's undoubtedly a thing. Moyes has won 0 out of 20 visits to Stamford Bridge in the league, and we as a club haven't won there for 33 years, but Brentford under Thomas Frank have beaten them 3 times in 4 years since they came up. That's just bonkers and we desperately need to find a way to change those patterns. Hopefully this transfer window can be the start of doing that.
davids
Player Valuation: £70m
I didn't expect much with the squad he inherited. He put one together last time that did just that. Can he do it again? With decent financial backing you'd think so. I don't expect too much. Losses in single figures would do me.
bitter-no-better
Player Valuation: £25m
To get close to a european spot next season we would have to win around 12 home and 6 away and then some draws. Not impossible but our home form needs to improve drastrically.
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I respect that! Have a good weekend EGNo
I like Moyes as a manager he done incredibly well in his shoestring budget, but I have to agree with Lanolin on this, it was knives to a gunfight, Moyes never done as well as he should have against the top sides. As I remember we were not far off them with some of the teams he made, I personally felt we should have sent after them more, we would probably have had more defeats but I feel more victories as well if we had.
When DM was manager in the past his transfer budget was nearly always tiny, very often depending on sales to allow for purchases.
It isn't that he will have unlimited funds now but we should have more access to money with the new stadium and new owners.
All the best brother.X
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