Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[Noisy noise annoys]

I'm not sure about this, is he any good or are his abilities a bit of a myth? He has had numerous chances under lots of managers and had half a good season. I think the longer he hasnt played for us the better he is getting...
I do not want to go back to the lump the ball to DCL days, its a big no thanks from me.

He was first choice for every manager or a reason. You need to look at his whole game. When utilised properly, with willing, capable midfielders and a decent ten he is very good. Unfortunately, only Carlo gave him this platform. the rest just preferred to lump it to him from 80 yards and expect him to deal with 2 grock CBs and get goals from nothing.

I imagine Moyes would use him more like Carlo did than how Dyche did for sure.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I just read on Everton Now that DM wants Harrison for 15 million; now DCL is back in the mix and let's throw in Soucek.

Could it happen?

Not a chance. Moyes is far from stupid, he uses stats lot in his scouting and Harrison stats are as glaring as can be. Everton Now are about as sourced as me

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

I'm tired of seeing the shouts for us to finish mid table next year. Screw that I want us to be challenging for Europe next year. We already have a mid table squad, if you exclude the Villa game as that was a Dyche team its 21 points from 14 games, that form over 34 games would have us on 51 pts level with Fulham (8th) and Brighton (9th).
The move to new stadium could scupper things as it often takes teams a while to settle, but at least its the start of the season and its up to us fans to make sure the team know they are at home!
A pre-season with Moyes and 3 or 4 quality early signings will see us in good shape. People say X or Y isnt good enough and then say it will take a few seasons to get above mid-table. We already are a mid-table team with X and Y in the team!!!
A Striker is key but also are goals from other positions and the providers. Whatever striker we have we need to play to their strengths and currently we are not doing that. Building for the future is all well and good but I want to improve what we have now and push for Europe next year, its not as big a jump as some are making out. If that means keeping most of what we have (on short term deals) and adding a few quality signings then so be it.

Not really how it works though, is it mate? Villa was a Moyes game, which makes it 21 from 15 or 48 points after 34. Still not bad, but all of a sudden we're down to 11th.

Consider the last 9 (so long as we're cherry picking parameters to fit narrative) and thats 8pts, a run rate of 30 after 34 which is 8pts fewer than we have now and 17th.

FWIW I agree that this squad should be (lower) mid table now, but it isn't. It was abject under Dyche, briefly much better under Moyes and now we're trending back towards a worrying slump. Perhaps we're on the beach, and injuries obviously don't help, etc, but one of the best things we can do for our sanity as fans is manage our own expectations.

If we want European football we need an unbelievable Summer window and, perhaps, our old dog of a manager to decide he's willing to learn a new trick or two.

Don't do it to yourself. It's the hope that kills you.


On topic: I'd take Ndidi, me.

 

[blueboy72]

Absolutely agree.

Stink,s of jobs for the boys.

The club are changing everything top down that should also apply to the squad.

You dont progress holding onto yesterday's promises.

Where was this report, it’s most likely nonsense. All the talk is bring the wage bill down and the age. Signing a 29yr old on big wages who doesn’t contribute, doesn’t follow that rule. Moyes isn’t stupid is your wide players don’t score or create, then you will be in trouble, because it’s extremely unlikely likely we don’t get a 25 goals striker this summer

I also don’t believe Moyes will be in full control, it will be a joint effort and the like of kinnear and Hammond will be here longer than Moyes

 

[blueboy72]

Eh, Mangala is decent enough.

We need better than decent, Forest didn’t think he was good enough after finishing 17th

 

[Lapeno77]

Think I've reached the bargaining stage of my Doucourre grief in that he can have a new contract if it means we don't waste money on Soucek in order to fulfill the useless midfielder who scores occasionally quota.

 

[mikel_88]

Leon Bailey likely available from Villa. Would be a hell of an upgrade on the wing for us. 27 though, so no resale value and would need to hit the ground running. They paid 30m four years ago.

Is an upgrade problem is alot of injury problems and at his age now prob even worse

 

[DL100]

He was first choice for every manager or a reason. You need to look at his whole game. When utilised properly, with willing, capable midfielders and a decent ten he is very good. Unfortunately, only Carlo gave him this platform. the rest just preferred to lump it to him from 80 yards and expect him to deal with 2 grock CBs and get goals from nothing.

I imagine Moyes would use him more like Carlo did than how Dyche did for sure.

He was only good under Ancelotti for about 12 games, the second half of the season he hardly scored. Most of his goals that season came all at once.

the reason he's first choice for other managers is due to lack of options.

 

[Trublue12]

We need better than decent, Forest didn’t think he was good enough after finishing 17th

I was actually thinking he was building an OK partnership with Gana. But he's out injured for a long time yet. He won't be staying.

 

[DL100]

Need at least one RW in the front line. Out of those 4 players not 1 of them can ideally play on the right

Agreed

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

He was only good under Ancelotti for about 12 games, the second half of the season he hardly scored. Most of his goals that season came all at once.

the reason he's first choice for other managers is due to lack of options.

Again, he was the first choice for many managers despite other forwards being available. His game was never just about goals. He is very good at playing the lone front man as long as he has support - he never gets any support.

 

[NikNak8]

He was first choice for every manager or a reason. You need to look at his whole game. When utilised properly, with willing, capable midfielders and a decent ten he is very good. Unfortunately, only Carlo gave him this platform. the rest just preferred to lump it to him from 80 yards and expect him to deal with 2 grock CBs and get goals from nothing.

I imagine Moyes would use him more like Carlo did than how Dyche did for sure.

A lot of the time he was the only choice

 

[NikNak8]

Not really how it works though, is it mate? Villa was a Moyes game, which makes it 21 from 15 or 48 points after 34. Still not bad, but all of a sudden we're down to 11th.

Consider the last 9 (so long as we're cherry picking parameters to fit narrative) and thats 8pts, a run rate of 30 after 34 which is 8pts fewer than we have now and 17th.

FWIW I agree that this squad should be (lower) mid table now, but it isn't. It was abject under Dyche, briefly much better under Moyes and now we're trending back towards a worrying slump. Perhaps we're on the beach, and injuries obviously don't help, etc, but one of the best things we can do for our sanity as fans is manage our own expectations.

If we want European football we need an unbelievable Summer window and, perhaps, our old dog of a manager to decide he's willing to learn a new trick or two.

Don't do it to yourself. It's the hope that kills you.


On topic: I'd take Ndidi, me.

Take your point about Villa, but I disagree and think it is reasonable to exclude it as he had very little time with the squad.
If you are considering only the last 9 then you really need to consider them, who did we play? are they in european places? were we well beaten by them or competitive? etc..

Anyway we both came to the same conclusion we already have a squad capable of mid-table.

 

[Everton_Gary]

He was first choice for every manager or a reason. You need to look at his whole game. When utilised properly, with willing, capable midfielders and a decent ten he is very good. Unfortunately, only Carlo gave him this platform. the rest just preferred to lump it to him from 80 yards and expect him to deal with 2 grock CBs and get goals from nothing.

I imagine Moyes would use him more like Carlo did than how Dyche did for sure.

Because we never looked to replace Lukaku and were skint so its the only option the managers had. People act like he was beating out a quality number two to hold his spot. Hold up play isn't number one priority for someone in that position, its putting balls into the back of the net. Move on, best for everyone involved.

 

[windymiller]

He was first choice for every manager or a reason. You need to look at his whole game. When utilised properly, with willing, capable midfielders and a decent ten he is very good. Unfortunately, only Carlo gave him this platform. the rest just preferred to lump it to him from 80 yards and expect him to deal with 2 grock CBs and get goals from nothing.

I imagine Moyes would use him more like Carlo did than how Dyche did for sure.

We're a team that struggles to score goals. DCL has been our first choice striker during the period where we have really struggled to score goals (although the problem pre-dates that period). There are other facets to his game but let's not give a six figure weekly salary to a part of our biggest problem. Let's all move on with no hard feelings.