Summer Transfer Window 2017

[Raino85]

Because he doesn't seem to have much quality....its weird but to me he does remind me of Naismith.

I know that's not the 'thinking mans' view but there you go....

He's a knack for scoring goals, like Naismith...but that's in Holland and to be he doesn't do much else other than show good leadership

Siem De Jong was a similar type of player for Ajax and he was terrible for Newcastle

 

[Kinghowie]

It's the latter, mate. He gets scrutinised from the stands any time he does anything wrong. You can see how as a fan of our club that he is it may be appealing to leave and support the club again. Can't be much fun getting booed by the fans you used to sit alongside.

If that is the reason, and I think it may have something to do with it, some of our fans need to take a long hard look at themselves. He a talented footballer and a fan. It shouldn't have come to this. Hopefully, he stays and gets the backing of the crowd instead of being a scapegoat for poor team performances.

 

[Raino85]

Kenny we don't know yet and Holgate performs to his best but he's not a RB and he deserves a go at centre half next season.

Can't stand it when we accept "good enough" stop-gaps when it's not true. We need a proper full back who is quality.

Squad depth is over rated. You get to many in and players start moaning they arent getting enough games.
A squad always manages 1 way or another.
If we were going to get any sort of depth id like it to be in Schneiderlin's position, its a much more harder position to play and its glaringly obvious we miss him when he is not playing

 

[Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg]

Colours nailed to the mast re Sigurdsson - I don't think he's that good

As has been mentioned before, his assists stats look good because he's so good at set pieces, but he doesn't create much from open play. I mentioned earlier this season on one of the threads that he apparently had less than 10 assists from open play in his entire PL career before this season (I haven't been able to verify that).

He's not a bad player, but we're essentially looking for someone in Barkley's role - I don't think he's enough of an upgrade to be falling over ourselves to spend a fortune on. I just don't think he adds all that much from open play over what we have.

Swap Sigurdsson with Barkley, how would Barkley fair at Swansea? Let's not forget Sigurdsson is playing in a very poor Swansea team.

I'd pay 25m for his goals, assists and set pieces alone.

 

[Thomasc]

Kenny we don't know yet and Holgate performs to his best but he's not a RB and he deserves a go at centre half next season.

Can't stand it when we accept "good enough" stop-gaps when it's not true. We need a proper full back who is quality.

The problem is, if we went for a right back he knows as soon as Seamus is fit he is out of the side probably. It is a position in which I think Kenny will be tried first before any purchases made.

 

[nsnojosh]

Do set piece goals not count then? Reading this thread you'd assume they're not proper goals.

No one in this team is particularly good at set pieces, they can be the difference between winning and drawing when playing smaller, more defensive teams. Sigurdsson adds that threat to the side.

Don't forget these open play stats are extremely misleading too - he's had some utter pap to work with at Swansea, Gomis, Eder, Routledge et al. the stats don't tell us how many of his through balls and key passes have been wasted.

 

[Tubey]

Sigurdsson would be a tremendous buy, no question about it in my eyes. Superb technique, offers the dead ball danger we've lacked since Baines lost his bottle and can pick a pass quickly.

 

[Nymzee]

Squad depth is over rated. You get to many in and players start moaning they arent getting enough games.
A squad always manages 1 way or another.
If we were going to get any sort of depth id like it to be in Schneiderlin's position, its a much more harder position to play and its glaringly obvious we miss him when he is not playing

So Schneiderlin is fit and you want to bring in reserves that may moan they aren't getting enough games.

But you don't want a Coleman replacement in case he's bummed out when he's a reserve come 2018 and rest the responsibility all on a player that's played 90 mins of PL football (Kenny)?

I don't get your logic.

 

[Tubey]

Do set piece goals not count then? Reading this thread you'd assume they're not proper goals.

No one in this team is particularly good at set pieces, they can be the difference between winning and drawing when playing smaller, more defensive teams. Sigurdsson adds that threat to the side.

Don't forget these open play stats are extremely misleading too - he's had some utter pap to work with at Swansea, Gomis, Eder, Routledge et al. the stats don't tell us how many of his through balls and key passes have been wasted.

I don't even know his stats, haven't looked - I just know I've seen him play with my own eyes enough to know that, in that Swansea side, he's a diamond in the rough.

£25m isn't even a risk for him.

 

[Nymzee]

The problem is, if we went for a right back he knows as soon as Seamus is fit he is out of the side probably. It is a position in which I think Kenny will be tried first before any purchases made.

He will be tried, and I hope he does brilliantly, but we still only have one actual RB till Coleman returns and who knows how good Coleman will be when he does? I don't like this "let's shove a young centre half at RB". We all saw against Swansea how ineffective Holgate is going forwards. What happens if Kenny gets injured?

 

[Nymzee]

Do set piece goals not count then? Reading this thread you'd assume they're not proper goals.

No one in this team is particularly good at set pieces, they can be the difference between winning and drawing when playing smaller, more defensive teams. Sigurdsson adds that threat to the side.

Don't forget these open play stats are extremely misleading too - he's had some utter pap to work with at Swansea, Gomis, Eder, Routledge et al. the stats don't tell us how many of his through balls and key passes have been wasted.

To be fair, not many players in the league you'd think "yeh they're decent from set pieces" and a lot of the time they're really random players. It's quite a specific skill-set these days. Look at the mixed bag you get with Sigurdsson, Brady, Rashford (strangely), Trippier, Brunt, Ryan Taylor, Snodgrass, JWP etc.

 

[Raino85]

So Schneiderlin is fit and you want to bring in reserves that may moan they aren't getting enough games.

But you don't want a Coleman replacement in case he's bummed out when he's a reserve come 2018 and rest the responsibility all on a player that's played 90 mins of PL football (Kenny)?

I don't get your logic.

Schneiderlin's position is very much a "niche" position. Not many players can do that to the affect he can.
Full back is less important to the way we play then that holding midfielder role is.

2 GKs
1 RB
1 LB
3 CB
4/5 C/M
3 Wingers
2 Centre forwards

Fill the rest out with kids.

 

[Raino85]

He will be tried, and I hope he does brilliantly, but we still only have one actual RB till Coleman returns and who knows how good Coleman will be when he does? I don't like this "let's shove a young centre half at RB". We all saw against Swansea how ineffective Holgate is going forwards. What happens if Kenny gets injured?

What happens if your back up right back gets injured?

 

[LocalNative]

Sigurdsson would get into our starting XI every day of the week.

Really hope we can make this one happen.

 

[ijjysmith]

Going to Southampton