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This move by Musk seems like his push to further validate this cryptocurrency in the finance market.


Elon has been hyping crypto of all types for a while, most recently dogecoin


Suppose you can look at it one of two ways - his company putting its assets in what he believes in or him running up the position of an asset he already held.

This seems an interesting choice of where to put investment.
 
you would have thought elon would have checked with the lads on the everton forum before buying bitcoin,lol
bitcoin went up 600% after the first US stimulus package,now they are about to print $1.9 trillion!!!
fasten your seat belts!
Aye, we dismissed BitCoin, thought Covid was just the Flu and that Sandro was a centre forward.

It’s been a rough few years.
 
Elon has been hyping crypto of all types for a while, most recently dogecoin


Suppose you can look at it one of two ways - his company putting its assets in what he believes in or him running up the position of an asset he already held

This seems an interesting choice of where to put investment.

He has indeed. Musk has been one of the people that really want to get the crypto currency going as a main form of payment. I also heard on NPR that companies with a lot of cash right now, such as Tesla, are considering Bitcoin, or another investment with bigger returns, because of how low the Federal Reserve has set interest rates. It seems Elon found that argument persuasive so his continue push for crypto has a double purpose. Making money while legitimizing Bitcoin even more.
 
He has indeed. Musk has been one of the people that really want to get the crypto currency going as a main form of payment. I also heard on NPR that companies with a lot of cash right now, such as Tesla, are considering Bitcoin, or another investment with bigger returns, because of how low the Federal Reserve has set interest rates. It seems Elon found that argument persuasive so his continue push for crypto has a double purpose. Making money while legitimizing Bitcoin even more.
For it to become a form of payment though it needs to become stable and I just don't see that happening for a good while. It feels like the messaging is always how high bitcoin could get (unsurprising given it is in the interests of people who have bitcoin to try and push the price higher). For example, why would someone buy a Tesla (a depreciating asset) with Bitcoin when all the bitcoin bulls argue that bitcoin should be worth way more than it currently is?
 
For it to become a form of payment though it needs to become stable and I just don't see that happening for a good while. It feels like the messaging is always how high bitcoin could get (unsurprising given it is in the interests of people who have bitcoin to try and push the price higher). For example, why would someone buy a Tesla (a depreciating asset) with Bitcoin when all the bitcoin bulls argue that bitcoin should be worth way more than it currently is?
The issue that needs to be solved before Bitcoin can become a proper form of payment is that it isn’t scalable. The technology doesn’t process transactions quickly enough for it to replace existing systems.
 
The issue that needs to be solved before Bitcoin can become a proper form of payment is that it isn’t scalable. The technology doesn’t process transactions quickly enough for it to replace existing systems.
That is clearly a big issue too. But until there is some level of realistic certainty over what level bitcoin settles at it won't become a proper payment system. Even if I knew my transaction was processed quickly enough I wouldn't want to accept bitcoin as payment when there is a chance someone like Elon Musk says he suddenly hates it and the bitcoin I just got for selling something loses 25% of its value. You can't turn round to suppliers and say "sorry I'm paying you 25% less in fiat because bitcoin just shat the bed".
 
That is clearly a big issue too. But until there is some level of realistic certainty over what level bitcoin settles at it won't become a proper payment system. Even if I knew my transaction was processed quickly enough I wouldn't want to accept bitcoin as payment when there is a chance someone like Elon Musk says he suddenly hates it and the bitcoin I just got for selling something loses 25% of its value. You can't turn round to suppliers and say "sorry I'm paying you 25% less in fiat because bitcoin just shat the bed".
Yeah totally. The only thing it has in its favour (over other crypto) is that the supply will get to a point where it slowly diminishes but that in itself will cause problems. There’s a reason why people moved away from the gold standard. Supply side management is important.

its funny really because a lot of the investment into Bitcoin has come from one of the benefits of fiat currency.

will be interesting to see what happens when the money supply goes in the opposite direction.
 
forget about about bitcoin being solely a form of monetary transaction,it is both a currency and digital gold.
it has evolved into a top performing treasury reserve asset that is slowly replacing a non performing asset choosing volatile appreciation over stable depreciation.
every CEO of every big corporation in the world will be having this conversation!
who will be the next big one to put it on their books?my guess is jack at twitter!
 
Earlier in the week cannabis stocks soar but today prices fell again. I still think this is an industry that has a potential to generate profits specially if the Federal government legalize it.

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Earlier in the week cannabis stocks soar but today prices fell again. I still think this is an industry that has a potential to generate profits specially if the Federal government legalize it.

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Don’t use it, never have. But the federal government stance is stupid. It should absolutely be legalized and taxed. I think it’ll get there in the next 5 or so years.

Realistically though, it’ll be up to the states, as it currently is. Same as sports betting. That was legalized federally but has only been instated in 20 or so states so far.
 
That is clearly a big issue too. But until there is some level of realistic certainty over what level bitcoin settles at it won't become a proper payment system. Even if I knew my transaction was processed quickly enough I wouldn't want to accept bitcoin as payment when there is a chance someone like Elon Musk says he suddenly hates it and the bitcoin I just got for selling something loses 25% of its value. You can't turn round to suppliers and say "sorry I'm paying you 25% less in fiat because bitcoin just shat the bed".
Good point and as the other user said it is simply not scalable to be used as a proper payment system. It never will be. I think most bitcoin maxis would probably agree too.

I have been following one crypto called HEX which is very interesting. It looks to replace the CD/Bonds/ISA market which is worth trillions. I looked at setting up an ISA and the rates they offer you are really quite pathetic. HEX offers a pretty good interest rate whilst removing the banking class middlemen.
 
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