Steve Walsh - no longer our Director of Football

[Neiler]

..it’s not only the players who have come in, it’s the type of players who haven’t come in. Looking at players in isolation only reflect them as individuals, but we need to build a team.

Can you give an example mate, im struggling a bit to get your point?

Are you talking of Matas, Witsels etc?

 

[Sir Alan]

Senor Steve saying there’s no LB’s but Newcastle are about to take one on loan from Chelsea.


SACK HIM NOW.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

I can appreciate that description mate, i dont see a huge difference in Koeman or Allardyces style of play if im being honest or really there approach to management. But i dont really believe we have a set of ideals - i mean what are these and because no one knows they are open to interpretation to suit any argument? Different people have different opinion on Sams approach to management, which we see on here daily.

IMO is a good way of describing this issue, no one knows exactly what his remit is but are assuming they do.

I have to say i was surprised when Koeman was sacked, i thought he would have gotten more time, i know results were bad but it was a hasty decision, i tend to think it was based on more then results and perhaps his input and insistence on recruitment or the investment made. I think it was telling who got the chop.

Thats the thing mate, I dont believe that we have a set of ideals set up at all, or a plan moving forward, if we would have come out after removing Koeman and got Allardyce in, then I could maybe say well we are looking at managers which while play different are both a little pragmatic.

We didnt though, it was so scattergun.

No-one knows what he does, or is meant to do - all we can do is speculate based on what a traditional DoF would do, and like I say in my opinion he fails against that.

He does how ever completely need to be held accountable for the mess in the summer - quite simply to put the blame solely on Koemans head is wrong, he needs to take a fair share of it - in his own words he needs to agree on the player, so he has just as much reason to have his head on the block.

 

[Neiler]

Thats the thing mate, I dont believe that we have a set of ideals set up at all, or a plan moving forward, if we would have come out after removing Koeman and got Allardyce in, then I could maybe say well we are looking at managers which while play different are both a little pragmatic.

We didnt though, it was so scattergun.

No-one knows what he does, or is meant to do - all we can do is speculate based on what a traditional DoF would do, and like I say in my opinion he fails against that.

He does how ever completely need to be held accountable for the mess in the summer - quite simply to put the blame solely on Koemans head is wrong, he needs to take a fair share of it - in his own words he needs to agree on the player, so he has just as much reason to have his head on the block.

I dont disagree with that mate, if you look at our approach and philosophy its flip floped from, Moyes, Martinez, Koeman, Allardyce, four very different managers, styles of play. doesn't seem to be an identity or ideals, that always comes from the top down and maybe its evident of the boardroom dynamic presently.

i dont necessarily disagree with you, i think our objectives throughout the season and even during the recruitment changed as the risk changed for the club. Its was reactive instead of reflective. again that top down for me anyway.

Were we differ, perhaps is were we think Walsh fits into all this, for me i think largely recruitment has been good, player trading has improved signifcanlyy, maximizing assets has been brilliant. I can see his effectiveness.

Whether his role has influenced basket case decisions at board level is a matter of or debate, personally i dont think so. we have a very wired and to my mind set up top presently and i think that is where our problems lie. If im honest i think Walsh has had to come into a chaotic system.

 

[LocalNative]

Spent £47m on a striker and a winger.

I'd have happily seen half of that go towards a LB and make do with only one or the other of either Tosun and Walcott.

 

[Boss_Blue]

Can you give an example mate, im struggling a bit to get your point?

Are you talking of Matas, Witsels etc?

We have a massively imbalanced squad or don't you agree?

From the transfer side of things that is his biggest failing.

 

[COYBL25]

We have a massively imbalanced squad or don't you agree?

From the transfer side of things that is his biggest failing.

Please add - “we have a massively crap squad “ to that too.

 

[Boss_Blue]

Please add - “we have a massively crap squad “ to that too.

I actually think we have some good players but no recognised spine to the team to build around and too many square pegs for round holes.

Walsh has to take full responsibility for that.

 

[Neiler]

We have a massively imbalanced squad or don't you agree?

From the transfer side of things that is his biggest failing.

I think its a hell of a lot more balanced now if i am being honest. But yes it was woefully embarrassed despite many on here, being dazzled by the transfers during the summer.

You blame Walsh wholly for that is what you are saying mate? "Full responsibility" harsh IMO.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

I think its a hell of a lot more balanced now if i am being honest. But yes it was woefully embarrassed despite many on here, being dazzled by the transfers during the summer.

You blame Walsh wholly for that is what you are saying mate? harsh.

I wouldn't say its ALL his fault, but if him and Koeman had to both sign off on the players, he is equally (of not slightly more due to his directorship level) to blame and should have been held accountable.

 

[Boss_Blue]

I think its a hell of a lot more balanced now if i am being honest.

You blame Walsh wholly for that is what you are saying mate? "Full responsibility" harsh IMO.

As DOF, overseeing such a poorly balanced squad is a massive failing and if he is not responsible then why is he even in that role?

 

[Azza]

I hope this guy gets a Game of Thrones style Walk of Shame through Liverpool when he is finally sacked.

 

[Toast]

I hope this guy gets a Game of Thrones style Walk of Shame through Liverpool when he is finally sacked.

I'm sure he will be moonwalking down Matthew Street waving fifties in peoples faces after his 7 figure pay off..

 

[blueblue]

The feeling about Steve Walsh is almost universally negative, but that is tied into results and performances.

I don't have a strong opinion about Steve Walsh because I don't actually know what he is actually responsible for at the club.... this is not a criticism just a statement of fact for me.

I don't know how many of the players signed during the summer were targets of the DOF , I don't know what the dynamic between RK and Steve Walsh was just as I don't know if he had a part to play in the recruitment of Sam Allyrdyce or what role he currently has in the affairs of the first team.

I would like it if either the manager, DOF or the chairman would outline the responsibilities or interactions of DOF and the management team led by Sam Allyrdyce.

I have read loads of negative comments about SW on this thread but I fear they are from people who know as little about what he does as I do.

 

[Eggs]

Can you give an example mate, im struggling a bit to get your point?

Are you talking of Matas, Witsels etc?

..i’m saying the problem with analysing individual signings is exactly the problem with our strategy. You don’t look at players in isolation, you build a team. A team isn’t built in silo’s.

You can consider Schneiderlin, Rooney, Vlasic and Klaassen as individuals, but from a team building perspective they are all similar types who play in similar positions. Walsh overseen those purchases. It smacks of somebody who hasn’t got a vision for the team