Steve Walsh - no longer our Director of Football

Steve Walsh as DOF

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The_La said:
So many angry Evertonians, all looking for a scapegoat!
Clearly it's rubbish that we haven't got the striker we want and need yet.

But I think it's a little bit inconsistent to be calling Walsh out. Most people would agree that what we wanted Walsh to come and do was find us the cheap gems who we could develop into stars, like he did at Leicester with Mahrez, Vardy etc. This summer we've seen us sign the likes of Sandro and kids such as Bowler and the lad from Newcastle. They are the sorts of players who will make or break Walsh's reputation, I think. And it's way too early to judge. Don't forget, he got us Gueye last year. People quickly forget.

What I would say is that the kind of striker we are all desperate to sign - the Giroud, Benteke, Costa, Llorente type player - these are not the sort of players that Steve Walsh is employed to identify and sign. I don't think our inability to sign them is a reflection of the job he is doing.
For me, they're the frontline targets that anyone - Koeman, Kenwright, Walsh, you or me could identify!
If we don't get them, we are likely to have to look at a Walsh-identified backup target - that's when the likes of Okaka etc might come into play. That's where Walsh earns his coin - finding a potentially effective player at the bottom of the barrel.

People can't demand success from Walsh in sign cheap gems and then criticise him when when we don't sign expensive famous players.
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His job is both. Simple as that. But he's got two days still. We'll see what happens.
 
It's almost as if he sat down and got so excited about all the players he could buy to supply our new frontman, that he forgot about the frontman himself.

He probably struts about Finch Farm in bermuda shorts and a Hawaiian shirt patting himself on the back for a good transfer window, then fat Ron squeezes his head through Steves office door and enquires about a striker only for Steve to look bewildered and then fly into an angry rage at the insinuation that he's forgot all about it. He slams the door on Ronald, with his head still wedged in the door frame and gets straight on the phone to see what conference sides have players with exotic names.

Get out of our club Steve you absolute joke.
 

mightymoyes said:
well that shows why we'll never be higher than 7th.
chelsea replace costa with morata, utd replace ibra with lukaku, we replace lukaku with sandro.
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Probably has something to do with them being much better than us and the fact that we haven't even looked like challenging for anything since 1995
 
The_La said:
So many angry Evertonians, all looking for a scapegoat!
Clearly it's rubbish that we haven't got the striker we want and need yet.

But I think it's a little bit inconsistent to be calling Walsh out. Most people would agree that what we wanted Walsh to come and do was find us the cheap gems who we could develop into stars, like he did at Leicester with Mahrez, Vardy etc. This summer we've seen us sign the likes of Sandro and kids such as Bowler and the lad from Newcastle. They are the sorts of players who will make or break Walsh's reputation, I think. And it's way too early to judge. Don't forget, he got us Gueye last year. People quickly forget.

What I would say is that the kind of striker we are all desperate to sign - the Giroud, Benteke, Costa, Llorente type player - these are not the sort of players that Steve Walsh is employed to identify and sign. I don't think our inability to sign them is a reflection of the job he is doing.
For me, they're the frontline targets that anyone - Koeman, Kenwright, Walsh, you or me could identify!
If we don't get them, we are likely to have to look at a Walsh-identified backup target - that's when the likes of Okaka etc might come into play. That's where Walsh earns his coin - finding a potentially effective player at the bottom of the barrel.

People can't demand success from Walsh in sign cheap gems and then criticise him when when we don't sign expensive famous players.
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Let's not make out like Gueye was signed from the Eritrean 8th tier, he was playing in the premier league, was a full international and had played Champions League and Europa League football. Okaka is the same, any of us could identify him, it's just nobody has because he's not very good.

Either Walsh's job is to identify and negotiate for all players, or it's simply to find the unknowns. Neither Gueye or Okaka falls into the unknown category.
 
Bungle said:
It's almost as if he sat down and got so excited about all the players he could buy to supply our new frontman, that he forgot about the frontman himself.

He probably struts about Finch Farm in bermuda shorts and a Hawaiian shirt patting himself on the back for a good transfer window, then fat Ron squeezes his head through Steves office door and enquires about a striker only for Steve to look bewildered and then fly into an angry rage at the insinuation that he's forgot all about it. He slams the door on Ronald, with his head still wedged in the door frame and gets straight on the phone to see what conference sides have players with exotic names.

Get out of our club Steve you absolute joke.
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Why didn't he buy any of those then?
 
Lanolin said:
Let's not make out like Gueye was signed from the Eritrean 8th tier, he was playing in the premier league, was a full international and had played Champions League and Europa League football. Okaka is the same, any of us could identify him, it's just nobody has because he's not very good.

Either Walsh's job is to identify and negotiate for all players, or it's simply to find the unknowns. Neither Gueye or Okaka falls into the unknown category.
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Everyone may have known him, but clearly Gana was undervalued. It's also about finding good investments, though. So he deserves credit for Gana AND blame if they don't get a striker in. With one exception - if it's the board that won't spend the money and/or can't conduct negotiations.
 

CRIMHEAD said:
Everyone may have known him, but clearly Gana was undervalued. It's also about finding good investments, though. So he deserves credit for Gana AND blame if they don't get a striker in. With one exception - if it's the board that won't spend the money and/or can't conduct negotiations.
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Yes I'm not disputing that, I'm agreeing with you.

The point is that Gueye wasn't the bottom of the barrel. There's actually a bit of a dispute as to whether he was an actually a Walsh signing at all because Koeman/Reed had tried to sign him at Southampton but I don't know who made the call.

I'm not knocking Walsh here at all, I made the point in this thread yesterday that we won't really know how effective he's been for another couple of years and the early signs in that regard are decent. I'm pretty sure he's not just employed as a sweeper upper though, who we ask to find someone when we've failed to do the business we wanted to do. I'd give him credit for the Pickford, Keane, Klaassen etc deals so he ain't getting a free pass if we don't get a good striker in.
 
Firmly believe Giroud was lined up and the did an about-turn. The rest of the players we got in are ideal to feed him goals. We should have had a backup plan though, that's not to say we don't I suppose.
 
Bungle said:
He bought Pickford and Keane and then lost all enthusiasm for flare players.
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Great buys tbf. But hardly inspired.

Moshiri will see sense and sack the lot at the end of the season and install a much more progressive hierarchy. *taps nose*
 

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