Current Affairs Stabbing incident in Southport

Status
Not open for further replies.
Dymak said:
Minging little rat! We should not be spending money keeping him alive, we should just shoot him in the head (if you want to be humane) and have done with it.

Can’t be arsed arguing the toss, and people have a right to their own opinions, but I think people hide behind the notion that discussing a terror attack could jeopardise a court hearing, similar to how some people hide behind GDPR and ‘data protection’ when it comes to sharing information.

They act like you aren’t allowed to share any information full stop when that’s really not the case; there are loads of circumstances in which data protection NEEDS to be ignored!

They also eventually released the information of him possessing an Islamic terror handbook etc well ahead of the scheduled trial, but long after the terror attack.

They did this because reporting what he has been charged with would have absolutely no chance of destabilising a trial. So I’m wondering what information they reckon actually needed to be withheld, when it was inevitably disclosed well ahead of the trial anyway?
Click to expand...
They had bellends on social media organising attacks on hotels housing 'boat people/muslims' & 'mosques'. And you want to know why the isis recruit manual was kept out of public perception? Seriously?
 
Dymak said:
Of course, but they are also disclosed to the public as a matter of public record. It’s kind of the fundamental basis of a democratic legal system.
Click to expand...
Not before the trial! Why do you think jurors aren't told to look at media during a trial?

Honestly i can't believe the lack of knowledge here
 
trueblue84 said:
Got to say, the media reveling in this case is sickening. It doesn't need wall to wall coverage with the reporters feigning emotion and fighting back tears.

He's a sick person who committed a heinous crime. He will be sentenced and that should be the end of it, unless the government holds an enquiry. It doesn't need editorialising from the media.
Click to expand...
grandstanding, emotional blackmailing, sensationalizing, hyper shrill judgementalizing, calling to arms, duck*heads! Media complicity in the riots shows that media is scum. murdochs britain.
 
Dymak said:
Of course, but they are also disclosed to the public as a matter of public record. It’s kind of the fundamental basis of a democratic legal system.
Click to expand...
In this case the CPS were concerned of the potential Jury (had he kept his not guilty plea) being influenced or ‘tainted’ due to how high profile the case is.

It isn’t unusual for a case as high profile as this to have certain detail’s withheld until the trial date for this reason.
 
neil999 said:
Not before the trial! Why do you think jurors aren't told to look at media during a trial?

Honestly i can't believe the lack of knowledge here
Click to expand...

What are you on about? The charges are ALWAYS disclosed before trial. As in, literally every criminal trial in modern history has had the charges disclosed, as a matter of public record, before a trial.

The CPS are obliged to do so ffs, and despite the strategic delay, they disclosed the information in question to the public ahead of the trial in this case ffs.

Was the delay due to concerns about civil unrest, yes. Was it due to concerns that it could jeopardise the trial? No, no it wasn’t.
 
Dymak said:
What are you on about? The charges are ALWAYS disclosed before trial. As in, literally every criminal trial in modern history has had the charges disclosed, as a matter of public record, before a trial.

The CPS are obliged to do so ffs, and despite the strategic delay, they disclosed the information in question to the public ahead of the trial in this case ffs.

Was the delay due to concerns about civil unrest, yes. Was it due to concerns that it could jeopardise the trial? No, no it wasn’t.
Click to expand...
I didn' mean the charges , I meant certain elements..and things are withheld during cases that could prejudice the trial and in some cases even previous convictions
 
LostLegend said:
In this case the CPS were concerned of the potential Jury (had he kept his not guilty plea) being influenced or ‘tainted’ due to how high profile the case is.

It isn’t unusual for a case as high profile as this to have certain detail’s withheld until the trial date for this reason.
Click to expand...

Certain details? Like, er, the charge?

Please let me know of any other criminal court cases where the charges have been kept a secret?

The CPS were obviously so concerned about jeopardising the trial that they went ahead and disclosed the information anyway!
 
Dymak said:
Certain details? Like, er, the charge?

Please let me know of any other criminal court cases where the charges have been kept a secret?

The CPS were obviously so concerned about jeopardising the trial that they went ahead and disclosed the information anyway!
Click to expand...

How do you know the charges were kept a secret? There is a big difference between not announcing something but having it reported in open court and keeping it secret.
 
neil999 said:
I didn't say the mean the charges , I meant certain elements..and things are withheld during cases that could prejudice the trial in some cases even previous convictions
Click to expand...

Well, in this case the fact that he was being charged with a terror offence was suppressed to manage civil unrest. The disclosure of this information was not delayed for any other reason, and certainly not because of any concerns to do with jeopardising the trial.

The other stuff, like being referred to Prevent did not need to be disclosed ahead of the trial. However it would have been disclosed during the trial, and the media could freely report on that without any fear of jeopardising the trial.
 
tsubaki said:
How do you know the charges were kept a secret? There is a big difference between not announcing something but having it reported in open court and keeping it secret.
Click to expand...

The charges were withheld from the public until the CPS chose to disclose them on the same day as our budget. They didn’t wait to charge him on the same day as the budget.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join the Everton conversation today.
Fewer ads, full access, completely free.

→ Log in 🔑 Register
🛒 Visit Shop

Support Grand Old Team by checking out our latest Everton gear!
Back
Top