Space and Stuff : It's Big

‘With existing missile hardware we could put a man into orbit in a year. But don’t ask me how we’d get him back’ Wernher von Braun November 1957

Incredible to think that less than 12 years later mankind would walk on the moon. Our single greatest achievement as a species, and von Braun was very much the leading architect and engineer.

But despite being the driving force behind the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programmes von Braun was also a former SS officer* who developed the V1 and V2 rockets that killed thousands of civilians, while fully knowing about the 20,000 prisoners who were worked to death at Peenemunde to develop said rockets.

Died of karma of the pancreas aged only 65 but lived to see his vision fulfilled.

*claimed he only joined as they had the best riding school
 
I ended up in a pub argument with a flat earther and general conspiracy theorist earlier this year. On my birthday in fact.

He said to me 'you must be one of those 'globe 'tards'.

I said 'yes... and you must be one of them thar 'kin idiots.'
My response to those who say the earth is flat, or we never went to the moon etc., is to ask why Russia, China, North Korea et al. haven't exposed it?

When you need another conspiracy (a whole world order blah blah) to justify another conspiracy theory, you've almost certainly lost the argument.
 
My response to those who say the earth is flat, or we never went to the moon etc., is to ask why Russia, China, North Korea et al. haven't exposed it?

When you need another conspiracy (a whole world order blah blah) to justify another conspiracy theory, you've almost certainly lost the argument.
Yeah, I've got a similar stock answer - when I was young and smoked too much weed and watched too much X Files I was sure there was a shadowy secret global conspiracy of businesses and clandestine government figures that secretly ran things.

These days, I'm terrified that there isn't.
 
Its a weird echo of history that for the second of NASA's moon programs there'll be a Republican criminal taking the credit.
Firmly believe that it's only because Kennedy and the democrats were running the show for the moon landings, that we have the 'moon landings' were fake conspiracy.
Jealous republicans trying to discredit democrat achievement, hence adding Kubrick etc to the narrative etc.
 
Firmly believe that it's only because Kennedy and the democrats were running the show for the moon landings, that we have the 'moon landings' were fake conspiracy.
Jealous republicans trying to discredit democrat achievement, hence adding Kubrick etc to the narrative etc.
Maybe. I'm more of the camp that it's peoples' limited knowledge of the world exposing itself - otherwise known as their stupidity coming to the fore.

That and a deep underlying issue of insecurity, which forms itself into a distrust of government, scientists and people more knowledge of them.

I don't need to pretend to fully understand the knowledge and expertise needed for someone to reach the moon, but I can wholeheartedly appreciate it.
 
My response to those who say the earth is flat, or we never went to the moon etc., is to ask why Russia, China, North Korea et al. haven't exposed it?

When you need another conspiracy (a whole world order blah blah) to justify another conspiracy theory, you've almost certainly lost the argument.
This works for the other massive denial conspiracy the americans have gone for two footed. How the many liberating forces of the concentration camps could be convinced to tell the perfect singular lie, alongside the staff still there and the survivors and then backed up by the evidence of mass graves and some of the paperwork salvaged, yet some still double down the holocaust didn't happen. Sick sick minds happy to inflict harm.

anyway, dark side of the moon to cross, the time it takes in a straight line being much shorter than the curved radius it'll actually take evidencing the spherical nature of the earths satellite.
 
My response to those who say the earth is flat, or we never went to the moon etc., is to ask why Russia, China, North Korea et al. haven't exposed it?

When you need another conspiracy (a whole world order blah blah) to justify another conspiracy theory, you've almost certainly lost the argument.
It’s not another conspiracy, it all part of the same one, THEY just want to you to think they’re all separate. This whole illusion is orchestrated by the Rothchilds and their cabal of lizards from outerspace.

OPEN YOUR EYES!
 
It’s not another conspiracy, it all part of the same one, THEY just want to you to think they’re all separate. This whole illusion is orchestrated by the Rothchilds and their cabal of lizards from outerspace.

OPEN YOUR EYES!
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