Sir Landon Of Donovan

[ToxtethBlue]

NO need to get snotty.

I'm telling you that Everton (and no other English club ) will be spending £7.5million on Donovan.

Everton certainly won't.



Obviously I misread that didn't I? :huh: I can read very well infact.

It won't happen. That or £4.5million for the lower figure.

Theres going to be a crunch in Football club finances, at the very least spending's going to be curtailed in most football clubs.

For 29 year old.... na. Maybe £2million / $4.5million and it may be worthwhile.

Another loans more likely.

I don't know about that, 7.5 million is nothing in this day and age, if we had the money (which we probably don't) I think Moyes would pay that for Donovan, if he was his favoured option, obviously.

You only have to look at the fee's we paid for James Beattie and Andy Johnson, and that was a few years ago.

 

[Matt Damon]

I don't know about that, 7.5 million is nothing in this day and age, if we had the money (which we probably don't) I think Moyes would pay that for Donovan, if he was his favoured option, obviously.

You only have to look at the fee's we paid for James Beattie and Andy Johnson, and that was a few years ago.

ToxtethBlue. You have to consider the recent budget, and the fact government spending's been curtailed. In the last 13 years, of all the jobs created 70% of them were reliant on government spending (the "false economy"). ALL clubs will be watching this... as it could affect domestic revenues.

They're also watching this similar to how they watched nervously the Banking Crisis of 2008, where many club's loans were held.


There's going to be massive structural change in the economy over the next 3 years. The same for UEFA club ownership regulations... on what spending can occur relative to turnover.

There's a confluence of events happening.

The safest option - for all parties is that Landon, if he want's to - comes back on loan.

 

[jdeezy]

NO need to get snotty.

I'm telling you that Everton (and no other English club ) will be spending £7.5million on Donovan.

Everton certainly won't.



Obviously I misread that didn't I? :huh: I can read very well infact.

It won't happen. That or £4.5million for the lower figure.

Theres going to be a crunch in Football club finances, at the very least spending's going to be curtailed in most football clubs.

For 29 year old.... na. Maybe £2million / $4.5million and it may be worthwhile.

Another loans more likely.

Easy, Matty. How would he know you can absorp entire complex works w/o even opening the cover, via under the pillow overnight osmosis?? You've got gifts, not all are so blessed.

Excuse us Yanks today, we've got a case of the WC Wheaties muscles.

Agree financial situations approaching meltdown point, sooner not later. But I could see davey splurging 4-7 mil pounds on LD. Especially if Stevie leaves for 8-12. Which he may not, but if he did that would seem fairly good biz in my book.

 

[Matt Damon]

Easy, Matty. How would he know you can absorp entire complex works w/o even opening the cover, via under the pillow overnight osmosis?? You've got gifts, not all are so blessed.

Excuse us Yanks today, we've got a case of the WC Wheaties muscles.

Agree financial situations approaching meltdown point, sooner not later. But I could see davey splurging 4-7 mil pounds on LD. Especially if Stevie leaves for 8-12. Which he may not, but if he did that would seem fairly good biz in my book.

If Stevie P was leaving, and as LCAB intimated previously Moyes had been looking at a 21 year old replacement... who there's no need to mention by name.

That would be a sell to buy scenario, although it depends on what the accounts look like right now.

Like I say Landon Donovan - is an absolute quality player. I thought that from the first time I watched him warm up at Goodison, purely his feet and touch... but saying Everton will spend a wedge of cash on him at 29 is like buying into the tabloids.

I could see a US$4million with half that paid upfront and the remainder "on appearances" and say we won a trophy etc... to the MLS but not upfront.

Cashflows you see.

See last post.

I'd love to see him back at Goodison. Great player and great attitude. But... "its the economy stupid".

 

[Matt Damon]

Then we're agreed.

Take note I'm only interested in Everton because I dont like LFC fans {see Friedel} and because of Moyes {see McBride} Was following Everton long before LD.

Well, actually you pretty much DO have an MLS sticky... way more yanks than NSNO.. and generally treat us better, too

I've got alot of time for our American and Australian cousins. I'm very interested seeing how the MLS is developing and this is more so from seeing Donovan. Have said before the MLS really needs to be developing NOW the next Donovans of this world.

And its these we're relying on our american friends (on here) to point them out....

 

[ToxtethBlue]

ToxtethBlue. You have to consider the recent budget, and the fact government spending's been curtailed. In the last 13 years, of all the jobs created 70% of them were reliant on government spending (the "false economy"). ALL clubs will be watching this... as it could affect domestic revenues.

They're also watching this similar to how they watched nervously the Banking Crisis of 2008, where many club's loans were held.


There's going to be massive structural change in the economy over the next 3 years. The same for UEFA club ownership regulations... on what spending can occur relative to turnover.

There's a confluence of events happening.

The safest option - for all parties is that Landon, if he want's to - comes back on loan.

No doubt, but there are still team's who will spend 7-8 million on a footballer, no matter what the circumstances, not everyone is looking to the future. Lots of team's look for short term quality and if that's what Moyes is looking for, if he has/had the money, then I don't think he'd think twice about signing Donovan for a paltry 7.5 million, if he was the player he wanted. Obviously that's just my opinion, but I do think certain teams would spend that type of money on Donovan.

But I agree with you, a loan is more likely.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Easy, Matty. How would he know you can absorp entire complex works w/o even opening the cover, via under the pillow overnight osmosis?? You've got gifts, not all are so blessed.

Excuse us Yanks today, we've got a case of the WC Wheaties muscles.

Agree financial situations approaching meltdown point, sooner not later. But I could see davey splurging 4-7 mil pounds on LD. Especially if Stevie leaves for 8-12. Which he may not, but if he did that would seem fairly good biz in my book.

I'm not sure about that, Donovan is no Pienaar replacement. If we sold Pienaar and brought Donovan in as his replacement I'd be majorly disappointed.

 

[jdeezy]

If Stevie P was leaving, and as LCAB intimated previously Moyes had been looking at a 21 year old replacement... who there's no need to mention by name.

That would be a sell to buy scenario, although it depends on what the accounts look like right now.

Like I say Landon Donovan - is an absolute quality player. I thought that from the first time I watched him warm up at Goodison, purely his feet and touch... but saying Everton will spend a wedge of cash on him at 29 is like buying into the tabloids.

I could see a US$4million with half that paid upfront and the remainder "on appearances" and say we won a trophy etc... to the MLS but not upfront.

Cashflows you see.

See last post.

I'd love to see him back at Goodison. Great player and great attitude. But... "its the economy stupid".

I don't claim to know what moyes is lining up, & of course I'll defer to uncle LCAB. But the concepts and/or seemingly infinite combination of potential scenarios based on unpredictable chronological conditionals w/ various players...need not be mutually exclusive.

So, while option "landon" may in no way be option A in the event Stevie (or anybody else for that matter) were to leave, that need not override or discount healthy discussion as AN OPTION. He's very clearly, at very least, THIS. An option. And not a bad one at that.

On the finances, are you telling me that a potential 4-6 mil net transfer profit for 2 players the same age, of comperable quality (we can debate this, but the 2 are not in different stratospheres quality wise) would be poor financial business?

Mind you, 1 is entering last year of contract (which in theory should severly REDUCE his transfer value) & the other is by far the most popular & marketable in the world's largest consumer market, where the sport is growing at an astounding rate.

Oh, & Landon's wage demands would be much lower. Fact. He's even hinted at such recently.

Sorry Matty. You're one of my fave aces here, but I struggle to see how this "option" is not sound & viable, even from the most bleek financial outlooks.

 

[pettyfog]

I'm gonna say it again... MLS high profile players get to play where they want to play. Money, whether transfer or wage, is secondary.

If Landon wants to play at Everton ...and right now according to the features on ESPN about the value of LD's time with the club. We are being set up to accept 'losing him'. He and MLS will find a way.

The only thing that will stop it, in January, is if the offer is insulting. IE; it must be for more than Dempsey brought.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Having seen them up close there is no doubt in my mind that Pienaar is comfortably a better player. Donovan wouldn't be a good replacement, simply because he wouldn't replace what Pienaar gives us. He'd be a good alternative to Pienaar on the opposite wing but as a replacement, it's a big NO for me.

 

[Goat]

I would cry buckets if we paid more than £5m for him.

 

[TX Bill]

Ok folks. You can take this to the bank:

1) IF Landon leaves the LA Galaxy and MLS, it will ONLY be for Everton. No he isn't going to Chelsea. No, he isn't going to Italy or Germany. It's Everton or not at all. I laugh at the USMNT supporters who think that somehow he's going to use this WC to engineer a move to another club other than us. They really don't understand what happened with him over here and they don't understand Everton and what it means to play for us. Landon DOES understand.

2) Moyes can find 10M USD (7M GBP) to buy him. The only question is will he. I say that he does and that we make a concrete offer to MLS for Landon Donovan soon.

3) MLS will not get 15M USD for Landon. At 28, that's just a bit too much for a player, regardless of quality.

4) Landon by ALL accounts, loved his stay at Everton and his experience. If Landon wants to come back, he can make it happen. I say that he will.


Carry on.

 

[TX Bill]

I would cry buckets if we paid more than £5m for him.

Get your tissues out then mate.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

He may come back, he may not...fact.

 

[jdeezy]

He may come back, he may not...fact.

Definitely this, I'm pretty sure...almost mostly...at least to some undetermined likelihood.

And what Bill said too.