NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
She'll be back alright...
Current Affairs Shemima Begum
- Thread starter Mrtallywacker
- Start date
- Status
Ultimately it's one of those situations where none of the eventual outcomes are 100% ideal for anybody.
I still think she's our problem to deal with though. Casting her out for another country to deal with is very much the political equivalent of burying your head in the sand in my opinion.
That said, her coming back here, as pointed out, presents its own set of problems.
In short, I haven't a Scooby Do what should happen realistically lol
I still think she's our problem to deal with though. Casting her out for another country to deal with is very much the political equivalent of burying your head in the sand in my opinion.
That said, her coming back here, as pointed out, presents its own set of problems.
In short, I haven't a Scooby Do what should happen realistically lol
For me, she committed her crimes abroad, so should face justice there.
Unfortunately, the place she did it in has no legal system to speak of.
So I'm fine with her sitting in a camp somewhere in limbo until she's tried as a war criminal or whatever.
I know i has been said already, but, imagine if she was white and blonde but in exactly the same situation......"bring a victim home..." they'd cry.
We are happy to give two boys new identities for life for murdering a 2 year old boy., we could do the same for this girl, no problem. Face don't fit though
Bit late for that given her face has been all over the national news for years.
Also doesn't really address the problem of her still potentially being a risk or not.
Except no. Look up Jack Letts. Samantha Lewthwaite would be in the same boat.
This isn't a race issue; that's a lazy argument.
coollino
Player Valuation: £80m
I'm pretty sure Jack Letts wasn't stateless though as he also has Canadian citizenship.
Lewthwaite would be much more of a direct comparison if caught.
No but he had his UK citizenship stripped, just as Begum did.
Racism isn't a factor in the treatment of Begum.
coollino
Player Valuation: £80m
But they aren't comparible as one is now stateless (which is the problem) and one isn't.
I didn't mention race.
Any choice a vulnerable child makes is very different to that of an adult, for obvious reasons. If I was held accountable for all my childhood misdemeanours Id be still be incarcerated, fortunately, I was treated as a child, and the rest is history. She deserves the same opportunity
Not by you, maybe, but by many!
They both had the same action taken. The only difference was Letts had Canadian citizenship; the UK determined Begum had an entitlement to Bangladeshi.
Right that's an opinion, but you insinuated what was happening was due to her race.
It isn't.
coollino
Player Valuation: £80m
That's more disputed than it is in the Letts case.
You're doing that thing again where you are trying to creative a narrative for some outrage.
I didn't mention race and you jumped straight on to race.
- Status