derek duvall
Player Valuation: £6m
Classic AI Dychebot post
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kenada_blue
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But still sold more than we've spent. The only club in the league who has had to operate on a net positive each window. League positions tend to end up relatively to how they spend.
It's like selling an F1 car, buying a Vauxhall Nova, and still trying to compete with an F1.
We had one of the best managers in world football at one point and gave him a fraction of what his predecessors had...and he delivered 10th.
All for getting good managers in. But when they have 2nd hand tools or none at all, they will all struggle.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Well we’ve gone from no one will employ him to no ambitious clubs will employ him now.
Actually read what I’ve posted on here about Dyche, actually go back and read it without freaking out every time you see something you don’t agree with.
The majority of the time I’m not even praising him. I don’t think I’ve ever said his football is good, I’ve never wanted him as a long term option (an one year extension before the takeover was back on was the most I went to so the players didn’t down tools this season). The most I’ve stretched to is saying I think he deserves some credit for the job he’s done.
You’re inventing this hero worship of him that honestly doesn’t exist on here. No one is calling him a hero, I don’t think there’s anyone left who even wants him here beyond the season.
The situation as I see it though is there’s one extremely vocal group who see any sort of credit for Dyche’s work at all as some sort of personal insult and then accuse the poster who’s given it as being either a super fan or even Sean Dyche himself. It’s truly bizarre.
Point this hero worship out to me anywhere on this thread. It just isn’t there. One group saying he deserves some credit for the job he’s done, another who are getting triggered every time he opens his mouth because they hate him so much. It’s not an even sided debate by any stretch. The centre of discussion has moved so far absurdly to one side that even ridiculous factually inaccurate view points are now seen as a neutral point of view on the manager.
so a blank in the arm?
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Imitation is the best form of flattery, thankyou.
Dyches record speaks for itself.
Delargeinho
Player Valuation: £35m
Discipline is important, but also a valid offensive idea, and I don't see that in almost 2 years of Dyche here. I never want a manager that can't give a good concept in both ends.
It's part of developing as a manager to also think outside the box. What trends and tendencies are there? What requirements does each league bring with it? What worked for five years will not automatically work for the next five years. This is how people grow with different tasks and requirements.
In short, the task Dyche had at Burnley is different than here and more than just surviving every season. It was in his first half year. But this club is bigger and must have the ambition to go top half and now also have the owners that can contribute to do that within a few years.
They've spent badly. Not Everton badly but badly. They've got a decent squad. Not levels above ours and we've spent beans in the last 5 years. If you asked people which players to sign from other teams, you'd get maybe 2 or 3 from Forest. Gibbs-White and Odoi then it falls off to meh. They're playing above their ability and we're playing to not lose most weeks.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
The ownerhsip situation will hopefully change everything as I’ve said many times
We’re not ‘bigger’ or better than other teams just because our name is Everton and we’ve been around for ages. We’ve had 30 years of decline the majority of which has been selling our assets to fund cheaper signings. We’ve had a few exceptions under Moshiri with Koeman Silva and Ancelotti who all received some decent transfer investment and the club came 7th at most in that time.
If we put out an 11 of very poor players and another team that was created yesterday puts out an 11 of better quality players then it makes not one jot of difference if were called Everton or how long we’ve been going for, we are once again asking the manager to outperform an opposite number who has better players.
The question should be why the reality of the task at Everton became the same as it was at Burnley which necessitated us bringing Dyche in, because make no mistake when you’re 19th in the league, have two points deductions in the pipeline, one of the worst squads in the league, and the club is going to operate a sell to loan/buy cheap policy for the foreseeable future until it can be sold, the objective is very much just to survive. We can think about progression now but it wasn’t then. People can get annoyed at Sean Dyche as much as they want for this but it sure as hell wasn’t him that turned us into Burnley, that one can be laid at the door of Bill Kenwright, Farhad Moshiri, and Denise Barret Baxendale.
milks
I hate football
It very key to separate what Dyche does - manage the side; from what Thelwell does - buy/sell players.
Everton's net spend has NOTHING to do with Sean Dyche.
BluePaul86
Player Valuation: £10m
It does. Keeping us up given the circumstances of the last two seasons, is nothing short of a miracle. I'm glad the Friedkins are sticking with him.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £60m
Tbh i gave up reading after the first paragraph lol. I didnt think i had to literally spell everything out to you that nobody other than clubs who have given up would employ him. Our interpretation of demand is clearly different.
Enjoy your day.
Rooney_Tunes
Player Valuation: £50m
I agree.
The man is a genius for keeping us in fifteenth with the opposition we have played in the League thus far.
Onwards and upwards. Been here a long time, have you?
milks
I hate football
The football itself is absolutely desperate at the moment, but you can't deny that all of these points have been achieved. Though one of them isn't on Dyche.
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