Scottish football

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monty said:
Scottish football is in such a bad state that scouts down here go far abroad these days not even bothering with their leagues. It beggars belief how they are trying to sell a product arranged in such a way that teams play each other four times a season, competition is extremely limited and they have almost stopped producing talent themselves.

Back in the day Scottish players brought solidity to sides, McKay, Cerrand, Gabriel, their skilled play makers were second to none, Young, White, St John and many others.................what went wrong. Their leagues should be reduced to two with twenty sides in each, they could use the Highland league as a Conference only then will sides get the opportunity to experience bigger grounds and bigger crowds. Rangers are a prime example of this as it took them years to get back to the top simply because their talent couldn't cope with the nitty gritty football played by smaller teams.

If Doncaster actually believes in what he is saying then he should be locked up, no one wants to pay big bucks for a league whose champions get beat by a tiddly team from Gibraltar. The state of Scottish football is a scandal no wonder curling is an ever growing sport north of the boarder.
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If it hadn't been for the outcry from the rest of the clubs, Rangers wouldn't have even been sent down the leagues in the first place either

It was a perfect chance to get some new teams into the top mix

He gave lip service to Aberdeen and Hearts in that article, but it was all about Rangers and Celtic

I agree with you, restructure the leagues, even if that means only increasing the numbers to 16 from 12

Introduce a salary cap if you have to, or limit the Old Firm to a set amount of transfers from other Scottish sides. Just do something to try and level things up a bit, because things are only getting worse at the moment

Look at the three lads Celtic took from Dundee United

Did they really want those players or did they sign them to kill off a rival?
 
Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
If it hadn't been for the outcry from the rest of the clubs, Rangers wouldn't have even been sent down the leagues in the first place either

It was a perfect chance to get some new teams into the top mix

He gave lip service to Aberdeen and Hearts in that article, but it was all about Rangers and Celtic

I agree with you, restructure the leagues, even if that means only increasing the numbers to 16 from 12

Introduce a salary cap if you have to, or limit the Old Firm to a set amount of transfers from other Scottish sides. Just do something to try and level things up a bit, because things are only getting worse at the moment

Look at the three lads Celtic took from Dundee United

Did they really want those players or did they sign them to kill off a rival?
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Yep that's been going on for years, old firm taking the opposition's best talent. Look at Scott Allan too, why did Celtic buy him? Just stunting the career of another promising young Scot.

Agree about the leagues too, we've been crying out almost my entire life for at least 16 team too flight. Doncaster is a tool, clueless!
 
Haston said:
Yep that's been going on for years, old firm taking the opposition's best talent. Look at Scott Allan too, why did Celtic buy him? Just stunting the career of another promising young Scot.

Agree about the leagues too, we've been crying out almost my entire life for at least 16 team too flight. Doncaster is a tool, clueless!
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Yeah, Celtic signed Allan because Rangers wanted him and wanted to stick the V's up to them at a point where they could

I wouldn't mind so much if Celtic or Rangers signed a promising young player and then loaned them back to the team they bought them from for a season or two

At least then the players would be able to develop more, which would help the League but also help the National Team

Sadly, I see more of this happening from both sides of the Old Firm

The tragic thing as well is that both Celtic and Rangers have excellent youth facilities and should be able to creating their own young stars without having to poach ones from the other SPL teams

Some of these younger players need to get a clue as well and start turning these contracts down. There's enough evidence now of young lads going to an Old Firm team and rotting on the bench that these players should be smart enough to stay where they are for a couple of years and develop. If they are that good, Rangers or Celtic will come back in for them eventually
 
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sky has ruined Scottish football imo
More folk tag along with English teams
Plenty of back to back footy on the box from down south
A bigger league would mean meaningless games
Clubs wouldn't vote for it they enjoy the old firm crowds
Outside of Celtic and the Rangers only Aberdeen Hibs and Hearts have decent crowds and would happily live without those two
 
Look at the three lads Celtic took from Dundee United

Did they really want those players or did they sign them to kill off a rival?

munich,barca/madrid,utd all the biggest clubs do it.
 
Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Yeah, really bad

Hibs at least took Brondby to penalties

No European Football might help Hearts with their league campaign though, especially if Celtic and Aberdeen make the group stages
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It's tough having to play these games early in pre-season, West Ham even struggled in the qualifying rounds last season. It's tough to get the co-efficient up when you're at the bottom of the pile, that's the situation Scotland has been in for many years, completely our own fault. The big mistakes were made with Scottish football when we started throwing money at foreign players, and also forcing teams to have minimum 10,000 seat stadiums to play in the PL, that really crippled a lot of clubs. Fingers crossed Aberdeen can get through to the group stage but for them that's going to be extremely difficult, unfortunately. Scottish football needs a huge overhaul and the money grabbing dinosaurs that run the game need to be removed from power. It's a crap situation and these terrible euro results will continue year after year until it happens
 
Haston said:
It's tough having to play these games early in pre-season, West Ham even struggled in the qualifying rounds last season. It's tough to get the co-efficient up when you're at the bottom of the pile, that's the situation Scotland has been in for many years, completely our own fault. The big mistakes were made with Scottish football when we started throwing money at foreign players, and also forcing teams to have minimum 10,000 seat stadiums to play in the PL, that really crippled a lot of clubs. Fingers crossed Aberdeen can get through to the group stage but for them that's going to be extremely difficult, unfortunately. Scottish football needs a huge overhaul and the money grabbing dinosaurs that run the game need to be removed from power. It's a crap situation and these terrible euro results will continue year after year until it happens
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The National Team doing better would also help the co-efficient

I think Strachan has done as good as anyone could at this current juncture with these players

Georgia wasn't his fault. It was your classic Scottish bottle job. If they'd won that, they honestly could have sneaked into the Euro's

What needs to happen is for the Old Firm to not guzzle up all the promising young players and let them rot on a bench

If Celtic aren't going to use GMS this season, they should loan him out to another SPL team so he can get minutes, same for Allan and Christie

Tierney was really the only young player who made any advancement at the club last season

It's going to take years for Scottish Football to get better, if it ever does, and Rangers coming back up is going to hinder not help this process

Yeah, it'll be great for TV Ratings, but those ratings will benefit the existing establishment. Scottish Football needs the other clubs to be stronger, so they can produce better players for the national team
 
Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
The National Team doing better would also help the co-efficient

I think Strachan has done as good as anyone could at this current juncture with these players

Georgia wasn't his fault. It was your classic Scottish bottle job. If they'd won that, they honestly could have sneaked into the Euro's

What needs to happen is for the Old Firm to not guzzle up all the promising young players and let them rot on a bench

If Celtic aren't going to use GMS this season, they should loan him out to another SPL team so he can get minutes, same for Allan and Christie

Tierney was really the only young player who made any advancement at the club last season

It's going to take years for Scottish Football to get better, if it ever does, and Rangers coming back up is going to hinder not help this process

Yeah, it'll be great for TV Ratings, but those ratings will benefit the existing establishment. Scottish Football needs the other clubs to be stronger, so they can produce better players for the national team
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Yep, Strachan seems to have a reluctancy to pick players from 'other' Scottish clubs, bar a few exceptions. Obviously the championship in England is a higher level so can't blame him for looking at that league first. Northern Ireland proved though that you can have success with players who aren't necessarily playing at a high level week in, week out. Will be interesting to see his squad for the first round of qualifying matches. I think a few need to be retired and some young talent brought in to freshen things up.
 

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