Saturday's protest sit-in... Poll Included !!!

[AndyC]

I genuinely think we've come to the "end game" now mate, hence groups joining together. Failure (and a 28 year stint at that) will cause aggression, anger and mistrust.

Failure mixed with lies (and a 28 year stint at that) will cause aggression, anger, frustration and mistrust

Relegation will happen with or without the above seeping into the atmosphere at Goodison. The main thing is, it needs to be said, it needs to be acknowledged that it simply isn't good enough, it needs to be shown that it isn't acceptable.

Saying/doing nothing isn't an option if we all want to stand there as an Evertonian with our head held high and say we don't want to rock the boat. My son is 14, he's seen nothing but absolute failure. Due to work I can't go to anywhere near as many games as I'd love to and used to, but that doesn't mean I'm less passionate about my club and I tell him straight its not good enough, its not acceptable.

Because if we accept it now, (like we have done for 28 years) then we are accepting failure for our kids and we'd be better off telling them to support the rs and just roll over and let them take over the City.

Terrific post Macca

 

[Toff33Blues99]

Nope, at least it will be easier to get home with 30,000 plus sitting in after the game

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

I don’t get to many games these days but I’m 100% behind the protest.

Every club has relative lows on the pitch and a lot of clubs have had periods where every transfer has been a shocker, but every one bar us seems to have learned from those issues and changed/grown as a club.

The repetition of the same old mistakes has got to a point far beyond parody, now, even down to Moshiri and his Open Letters.

We insist on following the doomed Leeds/Newcastle models of trying to sign “oven ready” players when the non-Big Six (and Newcastle) clubs having the most success at the moment are doing it on the back of really smart, relatively cheap recruitment from all around the world. Brighton are having a field day with the Porto approach of buying low from South America and selling high. Brentford have made really shrewd signings from the Championship, and of Danish players, I’m guessing due to the coaching and scouting staff’s familiarity with them.

Even in the case of Newcastle, chucking a bit of cash around like we’ve been known to, they’ve invested it really wisely (Chris Wood aside). Botman for not much more than Mina, Guimaraes for about an Iwobi, and of course the major factor in their upturn being great coaching.

On top of a bizarrely assembled and woefully unbalanced squad, we have a manager who very clearly doesn’t have a Scooby what to do with the players at his disposal and an owner backing him to the hilt, apparently.

I made my peace last year with the fact we were going down and we managed to scrape by. I had an inkling then it was in spite of the manager rather than because of him, and this season seems to be illustrating that being the case. Had we got someone new in pre-Jan (and spent a few quid) we’d have been in with a shot but we’ve missed our chance now and this window doesn’t look like yielding much for us.

The relegation I can take. It’ll suck, and the wound our pride will take at losing our long-standing top flight record will take a bit of healing, but look at the clubs that have come up in recent years and smashed it.

What REALLY concerns me is the narcissism of this owner and his absolute unwillingness to admit there’s anything wrong. The summer represents our next window of opportunity in terms of rebuilding in our efforts to get back up first time of asking. We absolutely cannot have this guy in charge by then. I back each and every person choosing to sit in and make their thoughts known because I feel like the only glimmer of a shot we have at getting rid of this heinous board of directors and owner now is basically by embarrassing them on the public stage. The suggestion of fans becoming unwilling to attend games in any kind of significant number will affect the valuation of the club by potential buyers and that will hopefully set off alarm bells with Moshiri where every other calamity in recent years hasn’t.

Best of luck to everyone there.

 

[NathDogg]

Staying behind after to sit in with the kids.

Hopefully the happy clappers are in the minority this time, we get the win on the pitch and then we get our message heard with large numbers staying.

 

[Khalekan]

Irrespective of the result of the game... will you be partaking in the sit-in protest ?

Yes.

 

[Nyhus]

I would if i was in England. Support this 100%

 

[BNJ1878]

I'm in Cornwall but will be sitting in my seat in the Gwladys street in spirit.

You probably have a better view

 

[BNJ1878]

banners in every stand with a simple message to the board: Leave Everton now.

Those who arranged the banners for this weekend, fair play to them for getting them out quickly.

If they'd have thought for a day longer they could have done what you suggest:

A simple, unified message, the same message on every banner.

Clever rhymes and puns are very nice but some of them send out mixed messages. When you have something that seems immovable you chip away at one point until it cracks. If the media see a single message they're all clear on the objective.

I can almost guarantee that a fair few media this weekend will report it's a Moshiri sell up protest. (which may prove the to be the only way this board is improved on, replaced)

 

[blueblood]

My lad is 10 and on the waiting list for a season ticket. I really feel for him having to put up with his mates pointing out how rubbish Everton are and him not really having any come back. I went the game every week with my dad, he died nearly 2 years ago. The whole decline of the club since the Premier League began is disgusting. Big Nev is right- the problems started when we were told finishing 10th was an achievement.
So I’ll be staying on Saturday, as others have said, I don’t think it will make a short term difference to our chances of staying up, but there’s a bigger picture. I owe it to my dad, who saw us win things regularly, I owe it to my son who has seen nothing but rubbish in his time supporting Everton. If you’re lucky enough (?!) to be able to go on Saturday, you owe it to other blues; ones who can’t afford a ticket, blues who are geographically too far away, blues who are sadly no longer with us and the next generation who need a club they can be proud of. I’ll support the players on the pitch during the same, but I’ll make sure I make the point with others at the final whistle that this is not good enough. NSNO.

 

[allezlesbleus]

I don’t even know what that means to this day. Smells of shame tactics to stop people complaining if I was to take a guess. People forget fans have kicked off before , end of Coventry 98 fans demanding Peter Johnson leave.

I was thinking about the Coventry 98 situation the other day. It reminded me of the current fiasco because we had done so little the summer before to strengthen an already weak team (only signed Farrelly from Villa reserves iirc) and Howard Kendall (part 3) looked like he was going to struggle to recapture past glories. Reliant on young lads like Ball and Cadamateri, too. The overriding feeling when people ran on the pitch soon turned from relief we had stayed up to anger with Johnson.
On topic, Saturday will probably be an unpleasant experience even with a win. Obviously a win will help massively in terms of staying up and anything less than that will be a knife through the heart for even the most positive among us.
But we are a shambles off the pitch, frequently poor and struggling on the pitch so it is hardly surprising people are going mad about it. That is never pleasant to see but one thing is for certain. Doing and saying nothing will absolutely get us more of the same because it is crystal clear that the people in charge/owning the club, to judge them by their own words and actions, have little idea about how to run the club and take it foward. And what stands still in footy world tends to be overtaken or go backwards.
To those sitting in, I think it is important not to be abusive, but if fans’ displeasure is not seen and heard, nothing will change.
And for the 90 minutes, give it all you have got for those lads in the royal blue jerseys!!! Like it or not, they are all we have on Saturday so we have to be loud and proud for them.

 

[allezlesbleus]

My lad is 10 and on the waiting list for a season ticket. I really feel for him having to put up with his mates pointing out how rubbish Everton are and him not really having any come back. I went the game every week with my dad, he died nearly 2 years ago. The whole decline of the club since the Premier League began is disgusting. Big Nev is right- the problems started when we were told finishing 10th was an achievement.
So I’ll be staying on Saturday, as others have said, I don’t think it will make a short term difference to our chances of staying up, but there’s a bigger picture. I owe it to my dad, who saw us win things regularly, I owe it to my son who has seen nothing but rubbish in his time supporting Everton. If you’re lucky enough (?!) to be able to go on Saturday, you owe it to other blues; ones who can’t afford a ticket, blues who are geographically too far away, blues who are sadly no longer with us and the next generation who need a club they can be proud of. I’ll support the players on the pitch during the same, but I’ll make sure I make the point with others at the final whistle that this is not good enough. NSNO.

Brilliant, mate!! Tell your lad to hang in there a bit longer!!

 

[Kirkles]

A sit in won't work , a sh*t in however ....

 

[allezlesbleus]

Cheers mate.

And I do agree. We have failed. A lot.

I like to try and be reasonaboe and see both sides, so i can see how/why many of the decisions were made. Whether i agreed or not. And I understand people worrying or not being happy, we all feel it.

Im just not sure the aggressive stance from some is the right way to go about it, and in my mind, the way the protests are rallied by these people with the loudest voices ends up a) alienating large groups of fans, b) causing escalating aggression by those who still dont know how to behave reasonably in public, c) only creating further distance/dissonance and lack of trust between the owners/board and the fans, and d) negativity potentially seeping in to the performance from the team, which lets be honest, needs all the help it can get.


But yes, i will try and enjoy the game, and hope for a good result, as always.

Maybe they can do me a birthday favour for once.

You have point your point of view well in this post, mate.
Out of interest, what would be examples of acceptable protest to you?
How do you think non-aggressive guys should voice their dissatisfaction with the way the club is being run?

 

[NathDogg]

A sit in won't work , a sh*t in however ....

Dirty protest, I like it…..

 

[Walter Ego]

I won’t be there as I’ve stopped going the game. I also think it’s a waste of time as it’ll achieve nothing and only increase the toxicity of the match day atmosphere.
I do support the intentions behind it though and want change as much as the next man but I’m not sure what’s expected. Would a new board suddenly give us funds to improve the squad? No. Moshiri has made his intentions clear, he’s happy with the board. He’s wasted millions but clearly doesn’t blame them or he’d have already got rid. Yes most of the signings were poor but we as fans don’t know the true constraints they were working under. Perhaps they really were the best available, perhaps not, we just don’t know.
The last walk out showed just what an echo chamber social media is and I fear this may go the same way. I hope not because it’s just another disappointment to all those dedicated blues that give so much of their lives, energy and finances following our club.
There won’t be change until the stadium is built (if ever) and a new buyer is found. Until then I’d rather see us get behind the team all we can to avoid this relegation battle. I say us, but I won’t be there so I don’t count. I wish you all the best though, youre better blues than me.