2017/18 Sandro Ramirez

[VentureBrosEFC]

I said it was reported. This is one link You called me a liar that it wasn't. I'll accept your apology for sayin it wasn't reported. I never said who reported it..
And can you show me the link to the statement you made that he one played 10 minutes for us. Thanks pet x

Normally, at least to me pet, reported means by someone that has at least a small modicum of credibility. As a poster above says, if you believe that RFM, Schneiderlin, Lennon, Niasse, Bolasie, Gueye, Baines, Keane, Jagielka, McCarthy, and Williams are all earning substantially more than Coleman that's your prerogative but if you do I think you're out of your mind.

 

[Papa Shango]

Says who? Don't just make up numbers. His value wasn't 5m when we bought him it was just his release clause.

120k really isn't that much these days. He was a hot prospect, its more than reasonable to think the reports were true. Regardless of what he is on he was doing nothing for it.

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

That still has nothing to do with anything. Fact is Sandro has had 3 people managing him and none of them have picked him so there is obviously an issue there.

We had space for one more player. We now have a bit of space to be able to bring others in.

To be honest I am quite happy to be on a different planet to you because whilst we are in a pretty precarious position I am going to get behind the manager and see what happens. I don't really see any reason to not be happy with Allardyce buying players anyway. Maybe he will get some who are actually suited to this league. Walsh I have no idea as I don't know which players he brought in, I mean...didn't he bring in Sandro? It's not worked out for him, it happens all the time at every club and instead of paying the bloke 120k a week to do nothing we can change things up a bit.

He really is no loss right now.

You think we're bringing in two tomorrow? Also Sandro has had three people who failed at the job manage him. It's all how you frame the argument eh? I get behind the team not the manager. He was the wrong appointment at the time and still is and is dragging our club down and seeking to make us "more boring". Yes, I think it is best we don't venture to each others planets.

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

120k really isn't that much these days. He was a hot prospect, its more than reasonable to think the reports were true. Regardless of what he is on he was doing nothing for it.

For our wage structure it is for sure. It's definitely not reasonable to think we paid those wages. But seeing as how we are so far apart on the subjective maybe it is reasonable in your eyes but I think you need glasses.

 

[kenada_blue]

But again never given an actual chance.

So he couldn't trap a ball? Lukaku couldn't ever, scored 25 for us last season.

My point on sandro is the same as klassen. How can you exoect them to adjust if you never properly play them? Or when you do it's in a team that barely functions and leaks goals? In a team where hoofing it up pitch is the attack, where 4/5 long passes are lost, where people get in each other's way etc.

Is the same argument that people had about all these players from below us, looked crap because the team was crap yet suddenly like gueye for example, are a much better player in what was a better team a year ago.

How many starts did sandro actually have? In all these games when he played, what was the end score? Stick anyone in a team that's struggling and they look poor, I'm sorry but I believe the likes of sandro and klassen are the scapegoats for this season and the transfer policy. They are the bench mark for the bad business yet have been the most frozen out of the lot of them and yet the team is underperforming by the ones deemed good enougj

It's a competitive game and had to make an impact as there are others in his position. Lukaku banged in 15 for WBA the previous season, and slotted two on his first game from the bench for us. So...you can say he took his chance.

Every single Koeman signing has had the "he plays better with better players around them".

Utterly pathetic transfer business. The only one that got on with it is Rooney.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Hopefully this frees some wages up for a last minute left back signing

*Clutching at straws here*

Good luck to him anyway, doubt we'll see him in an Everton shirt again. I'm expecting him to go on to be amazing, thus ensuring us to be a punchline for the remainder of eternity

 

[Papa Shango]

For our wage structure it is for sure. It's definitely not reasonable to think we paid those wages. But seeing as how we are so far apart on the subjective maybe it is reasonable in your eyes but I think you need glasses.

Oh I see, so you will have a go at people "guessing wages" but will then assume you know what our wage structure is?

Your attitude stinks by the way.

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

Oh I see, so you will have a go at people "guessing wages" but will then assume you know what our wage structure is?

Your attitude stinks by the way.

Yes when they pluck numbers out of thin air. Of course I don't know it down to the numbers but don't pretend like we don't all have a general idea of where it's at since we've been hearing about it for over a decade.

Your attitude is top notch by the way.

Get off your high horse and look in the mirror and ask yourself if you didn't bring the same attitude but just expressed it implicitly.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Can we please just ship out all signings we made under Koeman, clear out the other deadwood (Jagielka, Baines, et al) and start again in the summer? That'd be brilliant.

 

[Papa Shango]

Yes when they pluck numbers out of thin air. Of course I don't know it down to the numbers but don't pretend like we don't all have a general idea of where it's at since we've been hearing about it for over a decade.

Your attitude is top notch by the way.

Get off your high horse and look in the mirror and ask yourself if you didn't bring the same attitude but just expressed it implicitly.

My attitude is fine. You can't seem to disagree with someone without throwing in a silly line at the end about people being blind or stupid etc because they don't agree with you. It's totally unnecessary.

 

[Blue Juice]

He's gonna be absolutely fantastic isn't he

 

[barneygumble]

Just frustrating as hell.

When you play a relatively slow, and short footballer, with brilliant vision, in a tactic which is "Hump it and run", you're not getting anything from him.

Say what you want about the Spanish league, he flourished, he was Malaga's best player by a mile, and he really could have benefitted from a loan to a PL team, where he could grow into the league. If he still wasn't good enough, then fine. But 288 minutes to be judged. Woeful.

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

My attitude is fine. You can't seem to disagree with someone without throwing in a silly line at the end about people being blind or stupid etc because they don't agree with you. It's totally unnecessary.

You're not the one who gets to decide if your attitude is fine that's for everyone else to decide. If you honestly find these "silly lines" that offensive, get over yourself. Do you really think I consider people to be of lower intelligence because of a handful of words they type on the internet? It's a manner of speaking you child.



How's that for a silly line?

 

[toffee-L]

I've tried scouring Sevilla's website and Twitter to see if I could find any information regarding an agreed fee for the summer and couldn't see anything, to my knowledge Everton haven't specified anything regarding this either. Is there anybody apart from Dom King saying this is definite?

If its just a simple loan deal until the summer and then he comes back then I feel a lot better about this.

 

[stretford blue]

Why wasn't he given any game time with the u23s to acclimatise I know it's not the same level but surely better than just training