Sandhills station

[ultra]

Can’t wait to see how near 25k fans are going to navigate Sandhills station with Sunday train times at the next event, recipe for disaster.

It’s ok, they are making a footbridge.

That will solve everything…

 

[Bryan+]

Training for getting to the new stadium?

 

[davek]

Training for getting to the new stadium?

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That's about a mile.

FFS, the pointless Kopite gob

 

[James Patrick]

Can’t wait to see how near 25k fans are going to navigate Sandhills station with Sunday train times at the next event, recipe for disaster.

It won't be 25k using it same way 40k don't use Kirkdale. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone.

 

[Bryan+]

It won't be 25k using it same way 40k don't use Kirkdale. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone.

I do think there is a bit of that going on. 40k fans mill around Walton/town with little issue- 50k+ for the other lot. The problem here is made worse by the parking ban and only a single station within walking distance which makes it feel so much more congested for those who think it’s a quick win to walk to.

I see loads of fans saying kirkdale was walking distance - that’s really subjective IMO, town is 40 mins from BMD which is gonna put a few off I suspect and the surrounding ones outside Sandhills are 25min+

IF they remove the parking ban, that’s a massive help - they can even make money off it for gods sake

They can’t put a new station or extend Sandhills (quickly!) to handle even 10% of the 50k of BMD as it stands, I agree it’s been dangerous to even use it as a test, but alas it’s called a test for a reason.

Queuing up for a train that can hold 450+ people? Not happening.

 

[No Alla Violenza]

I do think there is a bit of that going on. 40k fans mill around Walton/town with little issue- 50k+ for the other lot. The problem here is made worse by the parking ban and only a single station within walking distance which makes it feel so much more congested for those who think it’s a quick win to walk to.

I see loads of fans saying kirkdale was walking distance - that’s really subjective IMO, town is 40 mins from BMD which is gonna put a few off I suspect and the surrounding ones outside Sandhills are 25min+

IF they remove the parking ban, that’s a massive help - they can even make money off it for gods sake

They can’t put a new station or extend Sandhills (quickly!) to handle even 10% of the 50k of BMD as it stands, I agree it’s been dangerous to even use it as a test, but alas it’s called a test for a reason.

Queuing up for a train that can hold 450+ people? Not happening.

This 100%

Not all of our fan base are able to walk into town or to other train stations etc.

At Goodison there are plenty of places to park plus numerous established bus routes

None of this exists at BMD currently and I haven’t seen or heard of any plans to put any sort of suitable transport infrastructure in place

 

[dutchblue54]

This 100%

Not all of our fan base are able to walk into town or to other train stations etc.

At Goodison there are plenty of places to park plus numerous established bus routes

None of this exists at BMD currently and I haven’t seen or heard of any plans to put any sort of suitable transport infrastructure in place

Walking to town might be the best option though..it can be done in 30mins to like Liver Building

 

[West Side Charlie]

Is there any news on this meeting they had yesterday, not sure if it went ahead or what was decided, if anything, about parking and transport

 

[No Alla Violenza]

Walking to town might be the best option though..it can be done in 30mins to like Liver Building

My point is that not everyone is able to do that walk - the elderly etc.

 

[davek]

 

[Street end man]

Walking to town might be the best option though..it can be done in 30mins to like Liver Building

Problem there is if town is in the opposite direction to where you live.
I would assume many,many fans come in from the east seeing the traffic flow on the lancs down through Walton Hall Avenue on matchdays. As it stands mate it is just ridiculous even having to worry about it.
The infrastructure should have been in place before the dock was filled in.

 

[davek]

Problem there is if town is in the opposite direction to where you live.
I would assume many,many fans come in from the east seeing the traffic flow on the lancs down through Walton Hall Avenue on matchdays. As it stands mate it is just ridiculous even having to worry about it.
The infrastructure should have been in place before the dock was dredged.

There's an insidious view taking shape and being promoted by people who should know better that this is everyone's responsibility to make this work.

That's BS. Fans aren't in any way responsible for carving out safe routes for them to attend a stadium approved by the local state and rubber stamped by central government.

This is all down LCC, LCR and HM Government.

 

[Street end man]

There's an insidious view taking shape and being promoted by people who should know better that this is everyone's responsibility to make this work.

That's BS. Fans aren't in any way responsible for carving out safe routes for them to attend a stadium approved by the local state and rubber stamped by central government.

This is all down LCC, LCR and HM Government.

It's small ( or rather large) things that i find so poor and infuriating.
Just one point out of many.
Season tickets go up for sale, thousands and thousands sell.
Then the buyers of them hear cars are banned from within miles of the place.
That was just ludicrous.

 

[pedro789]

There's an insidious view taking shape and being promoted by people who should know better that this is everyone's responsibility to make this work.

That's BS. Fans aren't in any way responsible for carving out safe routes for them to attend a stadium approved by the local state and rubber stamped by central government.

This is all down LCC, LCR and HM Government.

You're right.

And none of the same responsibilities are placed on the Jockey Club to get people to Aintree for Grand National.

 

[gazzaa2]

I do think there is a bit of that going on. 40k fans mill around Walton/town with little issue- 50k+ for the other lot. The problem here is made worse by the parking ban and only a single station within walking distance which makes it feel so much more congested for those who think it’s a quick win to walk to.

I see loads of fans saying kirkdale was walking distance - that’s really subjective IMO, town is 40 mins from BMD which is gonna put a few off I suspect and the surrounding ones outside Sandhills are 25min+

IF they remove the parking ban, that’s a massive help - they can even make money off it for gods sake

They can’t put a new station or extend Sandhills (quickly!) to handle even 10% of the 50k of BMD as it stands, I agree it’s been dangerous to even use it as a test, but alas it’s called a test for a reason.

Queuing up for a train that can hold 450+ people? Not happening.

A new station by the ground helps but Merseyrail has limited capacity compared to a London tube station that has trains running on multiple lines every 2 minutes. And national rail if it's on the network. A new station would allow fans to filter either north ways into Sandhills or into town via new station. It could also be better modified as a holding area to deal with big numbers of people. Sandhills is a glorified bus stop and isn't equipped to handle crowds. It's also not even that close to the ground - it's still going to be a 15 minute walk from the stadium and then stand in a queue. About the same distance as Kirkdale from Goodison.

The other thing with a new station is fans would be more inclined to stay behind and have a drink after the game - either at the ground or in a bar over the road - to allow the queues to die down like at Brighton or Spurs. Plenty will walk back to town after the game.

The test event showed that not allowing cars/parking near the stadium is a non-starter. You need the public transport links of London if you want to keep people out their cars.