2017/18 Ross Barkley

[svenboss]

Has he gone yet? No, Spurs will have our pants down over this and if RB lets that happen he truly has no respect for the club.

 

[bignev23]

He's a fart.

 

[Bluebonic]

Thw thing is none of us know the score. Koeman may well have ballsed the whole,thing up, i dont know, but consider this, why, of all of them, did he single out Ross? Maybe he wasnt listening in training, giving it the 'great young hope' biggun? I dont recall him singling out anyone else, so in the absence of any evidence, we can only say that Ross Will 100% be at fault if he screws the club over by leaving on a free.

 

[Steve Wigan]

Thw thing is none of us know the score. Koeman may well have ballsed the whole,thing up, i dont know, but consider this, why, of all of them, did he single out Ross? Maybe he wasnt listening in training, giving it the 'great young hope' biggun? I dont recall him singling out anyone else, so in the absence of any evidence, we can only say that Ross Will 100% be at fault if he screws the club over by leaving on a free.

Koeman DID'N'T single out Barkley. Barkley was the one who rightly got dropped or subbed and the media asked Koeman questions, which he answered as honestly as he could. I wish people would not perpetuate this myth that Koeman 'picked on poor Ross'...all Koeman did was his JOB !!!

 

[Bluebonic]

Koeman DID'N'T single out Barkley. Barkley was the one who rightly got dropped or subbed and the media asked Koeman questions, which he answered as honestly as he could. I wish people would not perpetuate this myth that Koeman 'picked on poor Ross'...all Koeman did was his JOB !!!

I dont didagree Steve, im was just saying those who think that he did, why (if as they say he picked on Ross) didnhe pick on him alone? When there were others not playing the way Ron wanted?

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Great reading through the last 20 pages.

It's gangsters fault.
It's Martinez's fault for pampering him.
It's Koeman's fault for not praising him.

Then suddenly and dramatically it's gone from Koeman (rightly) publicly saying he wants more from Ross to him being singled out every single day in the media. The England manager reading the papers and thinking Ross is crap, never of course speaking to Koeman about him, he just reads the mirror and Koeman has ruined Ross' life.

There's a reason why Koeman singled out Ross and not Barry or Kone or Williams. Ross has potential and can achieve more. The others were either old or weren't good enough. It's tough love.

If i was going to the gym to lose weight and was slacking off, i'd much rather have a personal trainer tell me i can do so much better and step it up than a Martinez telling me that 1 chin up i did was the greatest chin up of all time.

Over the past 3 or 4 years we've blamed EVERYONE but Ross for not reaching his potential.

Warnock, Moyes, Martinez, several England managers, Koeman.

IMO maybe Barkley needs to take a bit of the flack this time.

Yep.

 

[ToffeeTim]

SELL

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

'kin shame, really...

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

 

[Old Blue 2]

I dont didagree Steve, im was just saying those who think that he did, why (if as they say he picked on Ross) didnhe pick on him alone? When there were others not playing the way Ron wanted?

He is (soon to be was) the greatest talent in the club by some distance, yet the performances he put in were basically that of a lazy player who couldn't be bothered putting a shift in. Players of far lesser ability were at least putting more effort into games. That was plain to see. One of the greatest recent talents in the club, and one with one of the poorest attitudes towards pulling his guts out for the team EVER!

Any bollockings he got were totally deserved. The warning signs were there when he was dropped from the England squad, but he did nothing to address the issue. As others have posted, if he doesn't change that attitude, he'll end up in the Jeffers/Rodwell category, and it will be all his own fault. A total disgrace to the Everton cause, with the attitude he has displayed.

Take a look at Alli with Spurs, Ross, and hang your head in shame...

 

[tadao]

Koeman DID'N'T single out Barkley. Barkley was the one who rightly got dropped or subbed and the media asked Koeman questions, which he answered as honestly as he could. I wish people would not perpetuate this myth that Koeman 'picked on poor Ross'...all Koeman did was his JOB !!!

He did though.
Let's be honest, when he said we need to press from the front (including Lukaku, which Rom never did!), he never moaned about him not doing what was required because, he scored goals. Goals being a precious commodity, especially as the player supplying them "shouldn't end his career at Everton", or words to that effect!
If he doesn't rate him, that's ok. If Ross doesn't like him because of the stuff he said about him, that's ok also.
It shouldn't mean that people turn into Mr Magoo re his talent.

He is (soon to be was) the greatest talent in the club by some distance, yet the performances he put in were basically that of a lazy player who couldn't be bothered putting a shift in. Players of far lesser ability were at least putting more effort into games. That was plain to see. One of the greatest recent talents in the club, and one with one of the poorest attitudes towards pulling his guts out for the team EVER!

Any bollockings he got were totally deserved. The warning signs were there when he was dropped from the England squad, but he did nothing to address the issue. As others have posted, if he doesn't change that attitude, he'll end up in the Jeffers/Rodwell category, and it will be all his own fault. A total disgrace to the Everton cause, with the attitude he has displayed.

Take a look at Alli with Spurs, Ross, and hang your head in shame...

I could dissect all of that but, England?
He played all of the qualifiers and yet only him and Stones didn't play a minute in the oh so successful euro campaign led by Roy.
Big Sam(?!) didn't rate his stats or something, I dunno who can tell? (RK likes stats doesn't he?).
Southgate, please don't let him touch Pickford or Keane or Davies or Lookman or DCL etc..

 

[dannyboy]

I really wish he was staying because regardless of Sigurddson we could do with him in our team. That being said it's frustrating to see how he's responded to criticism from Koeman. Obviously we're not privy to what has gone on between them but it's likely they don't see eye to eye.

I think it's well documented that Gerrard and Benitez didn't have the best of relationships but this drove Gerrard on and made him more determined. Think it shows a weakness on Barkley's part that this hasn't happened with him.

 

[Abraders]

If Ross was productive enough big Ronkoe would have said nothing. But he wasn't, and was, of any player, capable of more.

Not his fault Ross wasn't up to it.

 

[CrustySack]

Ross thought he could 'do a Rom' this summer but it has backfired in spectacular fashion because nobody has come in for him with a serious offer.
I expect he will be gone by September 1st but he will end up being an unused substitute more often than not.
He will then go to a club below Everton's level to get game time and he will fade into obscurity.
I don't really have any pity for him because he has brought it on himself.

 

[BillBrasky]

Ross thought he could 'do a Rom' this summer but it has backfired in spectacular fashion because nobody has come in for him with a serious offer.
I expect he will be gone by September 1st but he will end up being an unused substitute more often than not.
He will then go to a club below Everton's level to get game time and he will fade into obscurity.
I don't really have any pity for him because he has brought it on himself.

This, 100%

Ross just isn't that good. He's inconsistent and has never shown the edge needed to succeed at this level. He's a 20M player with rare flashes of that make him appear to be worth 40M. If he wants to leave, sell him now. Its not cute anymore.

Plus if that MF ever takes another FK again I'll crush whichever device I'm watching.