Ross Barkley

evertonarntwe · December 20, 2016

Get rid. Defended him up until last night. Absolute [Poor language removed] house of a player. Can't even be arsed going in for a 50/50 against those scum bags. Horrible coward, wouldn't be arsed if he never played for us again

GwladysBlue · December 20, 2016

He only did that tackle on Henderson because he knew he bottle out on the previous 50/50 ball.

Bluebonic · December 20, 2016

Give him to unsworth for ten games to see if he can light a fire under his arse?

Andy_Oz · December 20, 2016

I guess partly in his defence, while playing at no.10, with the current tactics of bang it up to Lukaku (bypassing Barkley) the lad isn't getting much to work with. If we had a centre forward that could trap more than just wind he'd probably have a bit more of the ball coming to him facing the oppositions goal. Even when the ball is brought down and laid back to Barkley it's either him making a poor (or late) decision on what to do with it, or he knocks it forward to Lukaku who again seems to have lost all ability to hang on to the ball or find another blue shirt (and he's the first to throw his toys out the pram when a blue messes up a pass to him!).

Mikey_Fitzgerald · December 20, 2016

ijjysmith said:
Say Spurs bid about £35m mate. Not that I think they will like, but what do you think would happen?

I've had so much faith in him as this thread can show, but it's the same thing every week and it can't continue this way.

Spurs will never bid 35 Million mate, so the point is moot

Prevenger17 · December 20, 2016

neil999 said:
dont write him off yet, my two examples would be adam lallana and aaron ramsey

I don't think there's a comparison tbh. Ross is very heavy-footed, Lallana and Ramsey always had a bit of skill and control. I don't enjoy seeing the lad being torn apart on here, but he's a confidence player who rarely has any confidence. Our front 3 needs an injection of technique fast because, as it stands, Valencia and Kone are the only forward players we have who can control a ball. Which is absolutely terrifying really

Andy_Oz · December 20, 2016

evertonarntwe said:
Get rid. Defended him up until last night. Absolute [Poor language removed] house of a player. Can't even be arsed going in for a 50/50 against those scum bags. Horrible coward, wouldn't be arsed if he never played for us again

Wonder if it all stems back to his hideous leg break... maybe psychologically he just hasn't got it in him... it'd put me off!!!! (I'm also clearly a [mildly bad language removed] house)

neil999 · December 20, 2016

Prevenger17 said:
I don't think there's a comparison tbh. Ross is very heavy-footed, Lallana and Ramsey always had a bit of skill and control. I don't enjoy seeing the lad being torn apart on here, but he's a confidence player who rarely has any confidence. Our front 3 needs an injection of technique fast because, as it stands, Valencia and Kone are the only forward players we have who can control a ball. Which is absolutely terrifying really

yar...hopefully we can get some players in january and take him out of the team for a bit, just have him as an impact sub i guess

kenada_blue · December 20, 2016

neil999 said:
dont write him off yet, my two examples would be adam lallana and aaron ramsey

Next level...but Ozil has gone missing this season...

Thomasc · December 20, 2016

So we can now confidently say, he doesn't have the engine or brains to be a central midfielder and he is certainly not a play maker / number 10 either. Hell, Martinez even tried him out wide.

He doesn't even have a position you can accommodate him in.

ijjysmith · December 20, 2016

Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Spurs will never bid 35 Million mate, so the point is moot

Would be mental to be fair.

But just as an example.

kenada_blue · December 20, 2016

Chewbacca said:
He's not good enough and at 22 is not going to be.

If some silly sod wants to give us £35million, snap their hand off and buy another two Gueyes and a top class goalkeeper

Koeman would love that. 4 man midfield of defensive mids

jackyboy · December 20, 2016

Think he is miles away from Lallana if I'm honest.

mccole · December 20, 2016

I think we need to address this whole "Number 10" role for him.

He should be next to Gana, another striker upfront with Lukaku and in a 442 formation.

He will find more space, have more options to pass to plus we will have someone to link up with Lukaku.

The treatment him and Lukaku get comes down to simply, we don't have pace down the flanks to support a loan striker nor runners in the middle of the park who get beyond the striker.

Lukaku did his best holding the ball up (granted it was always perfect) but who was within 10 yards of him? No one!

Ross gets the ball and what options does he have? One! And his is being marked 2 to 1.

We don't have the players to change the formation.

Thomasc · December 20, 2016

mccole said:
I think we need to address this whole "Number 10" role for him.

He should be next to Gana, another striker upfront with Lukaku and in a 442 formation.

He will find more space, have more options to pass to plus we will have someone to link up with Lukaku.

The treatment him and Lukaku get comes down to simply, we don't have pace down the flanks to support a loan striker nor runners in the middle of the park who get beyond the striker.

Lukaku did his best holding the ball up (granted it was always perfect) but who was within 10 yards of him? No one!

Ross gets the ball and what options does he have? One! And his is being marked 2 to 1.

We don't have the players to change the formation.