Ross Barkley

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his best performance of season, anyone saying otherwise hasn't got a clue. A solid 7.5 out of 10

I've rewatched the match and gone through and edited all his best moments in the game and there were several. Against Sunderland I literally couldn't find a single thing worth showing.

He can still do better but this was a step in right direction.
 

Didn't say it was. But the way he is revered by some suggest he is. He really isn't THAT good.


[Braces himself and awaits the fume]
No fumes from me mate. Footballs all about opinions and you're perfectly entitled to yours.

The issue I had with your quote, and maybe it was just the way it came across, was that you appeared to be saying that if Ross was a world beater then we would have seen it by now. The only players I can recall being worldies at 22 were Pele, Maradona, Ronaldo (Brazilian version) and Messi. Arguably the four best players ever.

For what it's worth, I think Ross is a very good player, occasionally very very good. I'm not sure he'll ever improve significantly but if he can add consistency I'll be happy.
 
The lads who over egg his performance are doing him as much a disservice as those who overly criticise him. I said he did OK on Saturday and peoples heads fell off because I wasn't effusive enough for an average performance. He's did very little in the game. Played simple stuff and looked alright when he did but twice he shot when a pass to Rom was on. His decision making was still poor. It was a 6/10 performance because I rate him and expect much more but I'm not going to say he was MOTM when he was miles away.
 
The lads who over egg his performance are doing him as much a disservice as those who overly criticise him. I said he did OK on Saturday and peoples heads fell off because I wasn't effusive enough for an average performance. He's did very little in the game. Played simple stuff and looked alright when he did but twice he shot when a pass to Rom was on. His decision making was still poor. It was a 6/10 performance because I rate him and expect much more but I'm not going to say he was MOTM when he was miles away.

He was involved in the vast majority of our attacking play and moves didn't break down because of him - in fact he started a lot of them.

That qualifies as a good display, IMO.
 
The lads who over egg his performance are doing him as much a disservice as those who overly criticise him. I said he did OK on Saturday and peoples heads fell off because I wasn't effusive enough for an average performance. He's did very little in the game. Played simple stuff and looked alright when he did but twice he shot when a pass to Rom was on. His decision making was still poor. It was a 6/10 performance because I rate him and expect much more but I'm not going to say he was MOTM when he was miles away.

He was defo not MOTM, but he thrives off confidence and I for one do not mind singing his name for most of the match if there's a chance it will improve his game.
 

Wait.
Are people bitching because Barkley played but didnt score a worldly or get an assist?

Have a look at yourself; the kid is good if not great. He sometimes has a bad at work but the majority of the time, his average effort is better than the best from the rest.

Fine with that everyday including Sunday.

I think Barkley's problem is that he can be great and it skews opinion of him. he will do something really good and then people wonder why he cant do it all the time. Its a bit mad really but that's our fans for you.

He does frustrate me though. My problem with him is he often slows play down around the box. If he ever realizes just how talented he is and believes in that ability he will be a cracking player. I assume that is what Koeman is trying to do with him now.
 
I think Barkley's problem is that he can be great and it skews opinion of him. he will do something really good and then people wonder why he cant do it all the time. Its a bit mad really but that's our fans for you.

He does frustrate me though. My problem with him is he often slows play down around the box. If he ever realizes just how talented he is and believes in that ability he will be a cracking player. I assume that is what Koeman is trying to do with him now.
I cant argue that point of view.

Everyone has holes in their game. His gap is consistency I think,and perhaps you are right about the killer instinct.

Still he is no Stones...

;(
 
No fumes from me mate. Footballs all about opinions and you're perfectly entitled to yours.

The issue I had with your quote, and maybe it was just the way it came across, was that you appeared to be saying that if Ross was a world beater then we would have seen it by now. The only players I can recall being worldies at 22 were Pele, Maradona, Ronaldo (Brazilian version) and Messi. Arguably the four best players ever.

For what it's worth, I think Ross is a very good player, occasionally very very good. I'm not sure he'll ever improve significantly but if he can add consistency I'll be happy.

Ahh, someone who believes others have an opinion! Excellent. Don't get me wrong, I haven't branded him with Niasse yet. I do think he has talent but don't believe he will ever show the consistency of a world beater. I just don't want our progress to be hindered waiting for him to shine every game on a regular basis. Should a better player come along then we need to be assigning him his squad number.
 
Ahh, someone who believes others have an opinion! Excellent. Don't get me wrong, I haven't branded him with Niasse yet. I do think he has talent but don't believe he will ever show the consistency of a world beater. I just don't want our progress to be hindered waiting for him to shine every game on a regular basis. Should a better player come along then we need to be assigning him his squad number.
Whilst I was happy with the players we brought in this summer, I was still desperately disappointed that we didn't sign a quality back up for Rom, and a playmaker that could both challenge Ross, and support him in the creative side of our play. He carries the weight of expectation on his shoulders which is not good for somebody who is only 22.

Hopefully we'll sort this out in January.
 

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