Ronald Koeman discussion

[ijjysmith]

Getting to the point where blaming Koeman is pointless.
Blame those who have the power to get rid of him.

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

Plane with a straight to the point banner on Sunday I reckon

A drone guided missile on his fat head even better!

 

[Khalekan]

we are not going to lose any money by sacking him, insofar as he has a cast iron three year deal come rain or shine. Why would you want to keep the stinker, when everyone knows he's going to leave in 18 months anyway? get him out before he does even more damage.
Bill will know what to do. We are clearly relegation candidates now, I would offer Moyes an 18 month contract with Unsworth as no 2, just to dig us out of this horrendous pit. if we leave it to Moshiri, and he appoints another fantasy manager, there is a real danger we will go down. if we go down, the new stadium is a pipe dream

I was nodding agreement with you there, Kev.

Up until you mentioned fetching Moyes back

 

[BernieWright13]

The tragedy is the amount of time we waste holding on to no-hopers like this lump of lard especially after those torturous last several months of El Soft lad's regime. As many have already stated, we could bin the Greggs-aholic now and still potentially salvage something from the season. Instead, we all know that this board will stand by until it's too late. Exactly as they did when Jason Derulo's number one fan was blowing 2 potential cup finals.

 

[Brendan Janus]

Based on?

His wife's say so !!

He's an ugly Heffer though !!

 

[arminisgod]

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Unfair on Martinez... he didn't produce anything as bad as the current Shiite

 

[BernieWright13]

His wife's say so !!

He's an ugly Heffer though !!

Fair enough then

 

[Thomasc]

I have moved from end of October to go now, particularly as we could find ourselves in the bottom 3 at the end of today.

It simply isn't good enough and although I was even prepared to give that clown Martinez a bit longer, this is sliding horrifically downwards, change is the only option now I think.

The players need a lift, the fans need a lift.

He is about as inspiring as a wet, dark and gloomy Monday morning with a hurricane fast approaching.

 

[BernieH]

Its clear now that Gana can only tackle and I don't know what Schneiderlin does...

We just need one top player in DM and id go for Dendoncker.

The thing is though Zatara, Gana only needs to tackle if he's got someone alongside him to be the playmaker or box to box midfielder, all that playing Schneiderlin alongside does is nullify both of them and makes them less effective. I've been quite hard on Schneiderlin recently but I believe the formation suits neither himself or Gana and both are suffering.

Play one or the other alongside someone who can either pass a ball or carry a ball and it would be much more balance. Only my ha'penny worth, I'm no coach, I have watched a lot of years worth of football to deduce some things though.

On another note, disappointed not to have heard of his resignation this morning.

 

[Soap]

The only winner in all of this is Barcelona and Arsenal, who were both linked with Ronk at some point in history.

Neither club will go near him after this chapter.

 

[Neiler]

Based on?

1) His managerial history
2) Taking a historically lower table club up the league and into Europe in his PL season.
3) Taking over over a basket case Everton side, that floundered under Martinez and attaining the goal of European football.
4) Making us competitive last season with a limited squad, basically the same squad that floundered the year before.
5) The development of younger players i.e Davies, Holgate, DCL.
6) He is a very good tactician.

I dont blame him for our current results to be honest, there isnt a manger in the world who could set us up any better, the problem isnt the manager the problem is the club made a mess of the window and we dont have a striker.

No point blaming the captain who is trying to navigate a ship that was given to him with a hole in the bottom.

I back him wholly hes been given the faeces end of the stick by the club.

 

[Bob Elstone]

Is he off playing golf today or bothered to show up to do some training with the lads?

 

[Bob Elstone]

Get shot of the PE teacher as well. It's his recruitment or lack of, that's helped create this situation.

 

[ToffeeTim]

1) His managerial history
2) Taking a historically lower table club up the league and into Europe in his PL season.
3) Taking over over a basket case Everton side, that floundered under Martinez and attaining the goal of European football.
4) Making us competitive last season with a limited squad, basically the same squad that floundered the year before.
5) The development of younger players i.e Davies, Holgate, DCL.
6) He is a very good tactician.

I dont blame him for our current results to be honest, there isnt a manger in the world who could set us up any better, the problem isnt the manager the problem is the club made a mess of the window and we dont have a striker.

No point blaming the captain who is trying to navigate a ship that was given to him with a hole in the bottom.

I back him wholly hes been given the faeces end of the stick by the club.

His record is OK. But every season he seems to have a crisis. Not good enough considering this is now his team. This won't fix itself. Persisting with him is small time and stubborn

 

[Neiler]

Define “excellent manager”, Neil.

In my eyes Pep, Jose, Conte, Wenger, Ancelotti, Emery and fellows of that ilk are “excellent managers”.

Is that your yardstick and if so, do you put Koeman in that category of manager?

There is one defining difference between those managers and Koeman, each have been given the ability to play their team with a striker of their choosing that is not the case at Everton.

We look exactly what we are a very good team that has no striker, i think any of those managers would be pulling similar results given that context.

Had we a striker, do i think we would be competing with Utd, City and Arsenal, absolutely.