Ronald Koeman discussion

Jb90efc · September 9, 2017

I will be amazed if we finish in the top 10 this season.

mceverton · September 9, 2017

At least Martinez had nice shoes, this fella has Lonsdale written all over him

Duncan Disordely · September 9, 2017

Let down by the board's failure to land a proper target man and left sided defender.

Letting himself down by stubborn refusal play DCL from the start, any form of a proper wideman, Davies was a key player last season and can barely get a kick and then we come to Martina.

This summer was always going to be the rebuild, and it was always going to take time for the squad to gel, however he's definitely not extracting anywhere near the maximum from this group of players.

We might have been able to scrape through the opening few weeks of the season with a few wins if the opposition had been relegation fodder, but to leave him facing these fixtures without an experienced no9 is hanging him out to dry.

The window is done now, Koeman is stuck with the squad he's got. It's on him now to get the maximum out of the players available and find a way of playing and a way of winning.

Blue83 · September 9, 2017

Got it wrong when City went down to 10 men
Got it wrong against Chelsea
Got it wrong against Spurs

UTD is next against arguably the best manager in the game, what are the odds he's going to get it wrong again ?

There hasn't been a game yet this season where we've looked comfortable and solid, the only good thing is we'll have played 4 of the top 6 by next weekend

dannyboy · September 9, 2017

Abraders said:
If during any of those games, had we played some good football for even 5 minutes I'd be like yeah ok I can see it.

But we haven't. We've looked turgid in every single game since pre season and the only thing that has changed is the excuse.

'It's only pre season'
'The players aren't fit'
'They need time to gel'

lollol

We're not a top 6 team. We'll have bad spells in every season, this is one we're going through now.

I can't think of many sides who have brought in as many players as we have this summer and hit the ground running. It'll take time to sort this out. It was always going to.

hetion · September 9, 2017

Bungle said:
No we actually haven't, which is a concern. He was never my first choice but he won me over a bit. I just think he's an utterly bland no mark manager.

If he hadn't had the playing career that he did then he'd be nowhere near getting the jobs he's had.

He won me over initially as such a contrast to Martinez (tough taskmaster type).

Unfortunately, he's gash, and the inevitable slight upturn of form when we start to play even gasher teams won't change that.

bicycleheader · September 9, 2017

Moomin said:
I've never been a big fan of Koeman but he deserves more time.

This.

I'd happily see him sacked today because I personally dont like him or expect him to do much, but I'd accept the club giving him the 3 seasons he is contracted for to see what he can do.

I dont however have faith that our club would have the balls to sack and go a different route if he gives three 7th place finishes and no cups. I think theyd give him an extension.

dannyboy · September 9, 2017

Jb90efc said:
I will be amazed if we finish in the top 10 this season.

lol

Because we've been outclassed by Spurs and Chelsea?

Abraders · September 9, 2017

dannyboy said:
We're not a top 6 team. We'll have bad spells in every season, this is one we're going through now.

I can't think of many sides who have brought in as many players as we have this summer and hit the ground running. It'll take time to sort this out. It was always going to.

Hence me saying we aren't nailed on for 7th, mate.

We can't cope with as many games we will need to play, let alone just the premier league ones.

Everyone needs to get off the entitled everton 7th place trophy high horse, because it's going to be a massive struggle and I barely see us scoring 1 goal per game this season on average.

Bungle · September 9, 2017

AdaBrummieblue said:
So how long before we start hiring planes then lads?

I'm pre-emptively having one flown over Bramley Moore in case Ronald has the nerve to think he's still managing us when we move there.

Also having one flown into his house.

malmic · September 9, 2017

Lookman and Holgate not playing

Sandro, Martina chosen. What a joke

Sigurdsson is a waste of 45 million but he is at least a statue which we can look at

txlabc1 · September 9, 2017

Koeman on Spurs formation after game :

"I think we had real problems with the diamond in their midfield. They found easily the free player in the midfield. We didn’t know they would change the way they did in the midfield. It’s really difficult to change that."

Sorry Koeman - Thats not an excuse. If you see it, its up to you to change their play with your subs. 2 HT subs , made 0 difference.

Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg · September 9, 2017

dannyboy said:
lol

Because we've been outclassed by Spurs and Chelsea?

Burnley beat Chelsea and scored 3 away and held spurs to a draw at home.

dannyboy · September 9, 2017

Abraders said:
Hence me saying we aren't nailed on for 7th, mate.

We can't cope with as many games we will need to play, let alone just the premier league ones.

Everyone needs to get off the entitled everton 7th place trophy high horse, because it's going to be a massive struggle and I barely see us scoring 1 goal per game this season on average.

I think we'll get there eventually. This season is very much set up for a classic Moyes sluggish start followed by a good second half of the season.

It could be a few weeks before we see much of an improvement but it'll come eventually. The other teams in the league really aren't that great and our new players will hopefully be playing at a much higher level by then.