Ronald Koeman discussion

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I agree. Difference is, I don't see Everton having the kajunes to sack Koeman for bad results (should they occur) as Liverpool did with Hodgson.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...on-koeman-prentice-hodgson-liverpool-12193641

Prentice: Sorry Ronald, sometimes honesty just isn't the best policy - ask Roy Hodgson

Echo Sports Editor Dave Prentice's take on the latest Everton talking point

BY DAVID PRENTICE


I’ve been writing about Everton managers on Merseyside for 29 years - ten of them as the Echo’s Everton correspondent – and during that spell I enjoyed daily deliberations with five Everton managers.

Only one was 100 percent truthful about everything I ever asked him.

Some even deliberately misled.

But once you’d calmed down, you usually understood why those managers had been economical with the truth.

But understanding doesn’t equal acceptance.

And I’m struggling to understand how, exactly, Everton will benefit from Ronald Koeman’s recent spate of candour.

Sometimes honesty isn’t always the best policy.

But twice in the space of seven days Koeman has delivered candid ripostes to enquiries about Romelu Lukaku’s future and rivals Liverpool’s chances of winning the league.

And his integrity has ruffled some Evertonian feathers.

Their dismay is understandable.

Some believe that such straight-talking is necessary if Everton are to live up to the words of their motto ever again. I don’t.

Brutal honesty is a worthy quality in football, but rarely beneficial.

Remember Roy Hodgson’s ‘honesty’ across the park?

Teed up with the press conference equivalent of an open goal following his first Premier League match as Liverpool manager he blazed his answer, Ronny Rosenthal style, against the crossbar.

“Is there anywhere quite like Anfield for atmosphere?” he was asked.

“Well, San Siro and Old Trafford are excellent,” he replied honestly but naively.

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Anfield? Yeah it's alright but it's no San Siro...
It was an error he repeated when asked about the Liverpool versus Manchester United rivalry.

“I’ve been involved in some big derbies in my career and you know how much they mean to the fans,” he mused. “It compares with Inter v Juventus. The Milan derby was a big occasion but the derby d’Italia was the real killer one, as it were.”

Then there was his very own Lukaku moment ... as it were.

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KOEMAN INSISTS HE WANTS LUKAKU TO STAY WITH BLUES

After Manchester United were linked with a move for then Anfield darling Fernando Torres, Hodgson refused to issue the traditional hands off warning.

“I don’t think Fernando Torres will be the only striker they target, and I don’t think that we will be the only club that will be worried their striker can be targeted,” he said.

“I am not naive to believe there won’t be any danger and we will never lose a player like Torres, I understand these things can happen.”

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Fernando Torres in March 2009
The tumbleweed blew down Anfield Road while he spoke.

Soon after, Hodgson noted ruefully: “The famous Anfield support has not really been there ever since I came here.”

Any wonder?

Ronald Koeman appears to have the strength of character and the single-minded self belief not to care a jot if some fans disagree with him.

But there may come a time when he needs fans and footballers to all pull together – and some may not be rushing to his aid.

Evertonians don’t want Ronald Koeman to tell lies, to hype up his players or fall into the sugar-coated excesses of his loquacious predecessor.

But some want him to be just a little cuter in his observations.

Can you imagine Jurgen Klopp saying this?

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Philippe Coutinho with Jurgen Klopp.
“Philippe Coutinho’s potential is greater and higher than Liverpool as a final destination. If Philippe was to play at Liverpool until the end of his career I know he has left something behind.”

Of course you can’t.

Not all Liverpool managers operate in the same way.

Rafael Benitez was a fully paid up member of the tough love brigade, once substituting Steven Gerrard in a derby match for “trying too hard.”

That policy was undeniably effective.

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Howard Kendall
But so, too, was the greatest Everton manager of all’s brand of endearing honesty.

After a televised FA cup win over Tottenham in 1983 Howard Kendall was asked, predictably, who he would fancy in the next round.

With a mischievous smile he replied: “I don’t really mind who we face as long as we get a home draw …. Mind you, Brighton would be nice.”

Brighton were travelling to Anfield the next day.

Sometimes there’s a way of getting your message across.

The Liverpool Echo eh, making an article about Everton all about Liverpool.
 

I haven't been keeping up with it all, but I did get annoyed with his initial comment thinking he had said that Lukaku would not be sold in January, implying that for the sake of his career he should leave next Summer.

Seems like some backtracking is going on since the backlash developed.

It really didn't look like he cared about any 'backlash' Kit.

It's a non-story really.

I can understand the fan reaction, but I don't agree with the furore it's created.

It's common knowledge. Koeman didn't say Lukaku should be leaving at any point. He simply acknowledged the fact that a player of Lukaku's age and ability should end up playing for a Barca/Real/Bayern etc. if they are to make the most of their potential.
 

Thank God there is a game tomorrow.

A little over-indulgence in chatter from Koeman in the wake of a very poor defeat, and over-analysis of his every word here and elsewhere since. Time for everyone to call a truce.

He is smart enough to have learned from recent mistakes in dealing with the media, at least that's what I expect. His presser yesterday and the Daily Mail article were more in keeping with the sort of things you would expect the Everton manager of the day to be saying.

The manner of the Chelsea defeat was unacceptable and he said it. Better late than never. He also made an attempt to clarify his Lukaku comments so the issue should be put to bed now in my view.

I used to have a boss who loved saying there were "ripples of discontent" if ever there was a problem. I think Koeman has had that this week and has realised it. You can carry on the argument by saving he should have been savvy enough not to be drawn in with his "honest" approach to interviews but then we just go over and over everything again.

He needs to get on with his job now. He is a good football guy and it is all about 3 points tomorrow.
 

but thats a completely different topic to the likes of lineker asking him does he see himself as barca manager in 2 years which he answered very well imo.
Ok mate. I think we should draw a line under this for the time being because everything seems to have been said for now.

I think the club and he himself has got the message that his comments have to be more diplomatic. So let's see how that goes.
 
I think he was honest the first time around. But he is backtracking now, even his hardcore supporters can surely see that?

It depends how you saw the original interview I suppose.

He backtracked with the 'taken out of context' comment, definitely.

But what he actually said made total sense.
 

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