Ronald Koeman discussion

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eddy said:
Onyekuru is banging them in on loan when he could have been here doing it for us, but for our `halfwit` board
not sorting out the work permit ............
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So the lad not playing enough for Nigeria, not qualifying for Belgian citizenship and thus far not meeting the 4 point mark to qualify for the special talent clause is the boards fault now?
 

Groucho said:
Aren’t work permits out of the boards hands?

It’s an employment thing isn’t it?
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Not sure to be honest, found the below though, think it is on the club to arrange it.

" in order to secure a work permit from the Home Office, a footballer's employer must first receive a “Governing Body Endorsement”, ...
 
This is actually a 12 pointer tomorrow, if we lose it it could be fatal come the shakedown at end of season. Thank god we've got blockhead with his man management and tactical nous
 
Megatron said:
So the lad not playing enough for Nigeria, not qualifying for Belgian citizenship and thus far not meeting the 4 point mark to qualify for the special talent clause is the boards fault now?
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Great ... so we sell our top player stiker, fail to replace him, and the icing on the cake is a player who is smashing them in on loan
who is not eligible to play for us ...... `amatuer hour`
May be one for the future when requirements our met I suppose ....................
 

eddy said:
Great ... so we sell our top player stiker, fail to replace him, and the icing on the cake is a player who is smashing them in on loan
who is not eligible to play for us ...... `amatuer hour`
May be one for the future when requirements our met I suppose ....................
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How can you even say this seriously? The transfer was done in the summer before he started playing & scoring. Hindsight for you.

Hope to Jesus you’re a WUM.
 
bluestevon said:
Thing about going back to the start is that 'hopefully' when you do change the manager - what the new one inherits is better than what the previous one did and he gets the best/more out of those players.

He may well turn results around etc, he has done it here before last season and did it both seasons at saints, but for a team that wants to push on and finally win something - then that in itself is damming, 4 consecutive seasons he would have had a terrible run of form before turning that form around, which is enough to effectively kill you in the cups and for doing anything except the 6/7th placed trophy in a season, the phrase 'just good enough to get you beat' springs to mind.

Could argue about the changing managers thing that basically every single club is doing the same thing these days, Arsenal aside, United went through 3 in 4 seasons after Ferguson, Liverpool, spurs, also have been changing before finally settling on the one they seem to think is the real deal for the club (spurs obviously is, the rs 'looks' to be), Chelsea have it as their entire model to change the coach every couple of seasons at most as well.
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This is it in a nutshell. A manager who's gone on a bad run for 4 seasons running isn't going to get you into the top 4, let alone challenge for the league. Therefore pointless keeping him. The sooner he's gone the better.
 

eddy said:
Not sure to be honest, found the below though, think it is on the club to arrange it.

" in order to secure a work permit from the Home Office, a footballer's employer must first receive a “Governing Body Endorsement”, ...
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The club probably did that.

It’s the subsequent process, ie the actual legal bit which Everton have no control over, that is the issue I imagine.

We loaned him out to make the required appearances to get a permit.

Good work by the club there.
 

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