Ronald Koeman discussion

[Zatara]

This. Valencia CF has been in a state of upheaval for over 10 years so it's difficult to judge anyone on their record there in that period.

The bloke who replaced him did a joe royle and won all but one of their remaining games i think...

 

[ijjysmith]

I think you meant constant instead of consistent.

Both work to be honest.

 

[ilikecheese]

Both work to be honest.

I understood your point.

 

[nsno-chris]

Even if no one cared about it and the players said they were using it showing how they should be playing league games?

I thought they would finish top 3 that season...imagine, they were 2 off relegation and villereal took their place and finished 2nd.

Not been the same since as their top players became too old and they had the money problems and stadium drama.

I thought they were going to be huge back then and win alot.

He delivered a trophy Zat, it changes the history books. Exactly the same if El fraudo had delivered a cup last year.

Valencia were ruined by the owner and it's something that affected them for years

 

[ianefc]

Last few pages reek of oneupmanship because people are so gutted about being so wrong about Martinez, sorry sorry state.

COYB an all that?

 

[The Blue Watch]

Since someone brought his time at Benfica up, he did knock the RS out of the CL when they were the holders. Lost in the QF to Barcelona.

Porto and Sporting were a lot stronger back then than they have been in the past 6 or 7 years as well.

 

[Zatara]

He delivered a trophy Zat, it changes the history books. Exactly the same if El fraudo had delivered a cup last year.

Valencia were ruined by the owner and it's something that affected them for years

As i wrote to goat before, the fans were looking at that squad and season before and expecting a challenge at the top and champions league run.

Instead he finished bottom of the group and 2pts off relegation in his time. No one seemed fussed about the cup.

I guess if you are 3rd favourites for the league then you would be upset and angry.

Last season most said that even if martinez won the fa cup they would want him sacked....so i think league place is more of a barometer with a cup as a bonus.

Valencia had a great squad and expectations were high. Koeman was like their mike walker in terms of results and dislike.

We cherished the cup win with royle as he turned us around quickly with low expectations....it would have been different if we were expecting a title push.

 

[Zatara]

Since someone brought his time at Benfica up, he did knock the RS out of the CL when they were the holders. Lost in the QF to Barcelona.

Porto and Sporting were a lot stronger back then than they have been in the past 6 or 7 years as well.

Im 99% sure benfica won the league either side of his tenure as they had the best squad at the time

 

[The Blue Watch]

Im 99% sure benfica won the league either side of his tenure as they had the best squad at the time

They won it the year before he arrived yes, but didn't win it again until 2009/10. Porto were the better team for the whole decade, by far. Sporting were good until around 2006/07.

Koeman's team that finished 3rd actually got more points than the Trappatoni side that won it the year before as well.

 

[Jreverton1]

Im 99% sure benfica won the league either side of his tenure as they had the best squad at the time

I've not read your posts but I get the impression you're not happy with Koeman? 7 out of 9 points will do me lad. If we win on Monday we could be 2nd

 

[ilikecheese]

They won it the year before he arrived yes, but didn't win it again until 2009/10. Porto were the better team for the whole decade, by far. Sporting were good until around 2006/07.

Koeman's team that finished 3rd actually got more points than the Trappatoni side that won it the year before as well.

72?

 

[Zatara]

They won it the year before he arrived yes, but didn't win it again until 2009/10. Porto were the better team for the whole decade, by far. Sporting were good until around 2006/07.

Koeman's team that finished 3rd actually got more points than the Trappatoni side that won it the year before as well.

Judt checked and youre right! Tbh i think that was the time nuno gomes (the only centre forward portugal seem to have had in ages) was scoring for fun in the league. He had some top players there like our old fave manny fernandes and others like that greek midfielder and luisau (sp)....robert from newcastle too.

 

[Zatara]

I've not read your posts but I get the impression you're not happy with Koeman? 7 out of 9 points will do me lad. If we win on Monday we could be 2nd

Only 3 games


Sunderland
Boro
Bournemouth
Palace
Man city
Burnley
West Ham

If he can take 15 points or more off that run then i will be impressed.

That would give us 22pts after 10 games. Then i'll change my tune...

 

[Jreverton1]

Only 3 games


Sunderland
Boro
Bournemouth
Palace
Man city
Burnley
West Ham

If he can take 15 points or more off that run then i will be impressed.

That would give us 22pts after 10 games. Then i'll change my tune...

If it was Martinez it would be 1 point from 9, if we were lucky. I've said it before on here but Koeman takes no crap that has to make a difference in performances.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Only 3 games


Sunderland
Boro
Bournemouth
Palace
Man city
Burnley
West Ham

If he can take 15 points or more off that run then i will be impressed.

That would give us 22pts after 10 games. Then i'll change my tune...

We really did get a gift with our fixture list with momentum being so important.

When I saw it first I thought we might have a chance of being top by the time we play City and still do.