Ronald Koeman discussion

[Gladystweet]

what do you expect with Lineker

I made it up Joey....wouldn't be surprised if we were like.

 

[jinkyali]

I tell you what it isn't mate: ending our season in January and constantly pointing at the players and NEVER looking in the mirror to assess whether he could be the source of the problem.

He's a massive ego with zero self reflection.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-koeman-says-too-12378931

Zero self reflection. Totally.

 

[davek]

How so?

Because hope springs eternal.

We live on hopes, it's our oxygen. Take that away from fans in January and reap the whirlwind. there are a lot of angry people about today who wont accept Koeman's BS.

 

[Joey66]

Well it's YOU'RE then

Tommee jinxed me my bog handles just snapped wheres @Ashtonian when you need him - my sons fixing a new one of the car boot now!

 

[wainy]

Record start to the season. Sorry those players did that. Why hasn't Koeman been able to get it it of them since?

4 wins in the last 17 games stretching back to mid-September. That is appalling from a new manager who was supposed to be a massive upgrade.

he's been found out. Simple as that.

Because we had the easiest start to a season I can remember for a long time. I have never ever said he would carry that on, in fact I thought much the opposite and thought it would be hard to maintain such form. I didn't think we'd be as poor as we are, but still not as poor as martinez season 3.

You've made your judgement on RK mate, nobody will change that and thats fair enough. I think he needs to rid the squad of the deadwood of the Moyes and Martinez eras before he can be judged properly.

 

[rochdaleblue]

...we needed a new keeper 2 years ago mate, at this very time if memory serves, our good old ex manager gave an interview JAN 15 citing as much...he then went on to show absolutely zero interest in signing a new goalkeeper and instead went mad-bonkers in backing Timothy at every opportunity.

And then in MAY 15 stated he had neither need nor interest in signing a keeper.

Madness.

Can blame Martinez for a lot of things but not the summer transfer window. Funds were made available, RK admitted he wanted 3 keepers and we ended up with 2 number 2 keepers. The failure or lack of interest in an available joe hart was staggering.

 

[tommye]

Record start to the season. Sorry those players did that. Why hasn't Koeman been able to get it it of them since?

4 wins in the last 17 games stretching back to mid-September. That is appalling from a new manager who was supposed to be a massive upgrade.

he's been found out. Simple as that.

He identified the glaring lack of quality in the squad and told us as much. The players who then decided to stop trying as they knew he'd found them out are the cause of the downturn. He's basically told them they're shît and their performances since have merely confirmed his suspicions.

 

[Joey66]

Koeman identifies the required talent and informs Walsh. It's then his job to get the rest sorted. Signings, or the lack of them, are not Koeman's responsibility.

Koeman signed the players before we signed the DOF though?

 

[wainy]

Because hope springs eternal.

We live on hopes, it's our oxygen. Take that away from fans in January and reap the whirlwind. there are a lot of angry people about today who wont accept Koeman's BS.

Well I pity them, as I'm sure many of them lapped up the absolute man yogurt spouted by Bill over the years and martinez more recently.

 

[catcherintherye]

Why specifically mention Walsh?

It sounds like the target was the board but he didn't have the balls to directly attack them so went for Walsh instead.

Well he looks after transfers.

The comments about open eyes are more telling.

 

[riddick]

Id be concerned if we were near the relegation zone. But were not.
Were consistently in games and competing.
Ridiculous statement.

Ok, can't wait here. What's the 'ridiculous' part about this statement? Koeman's job is to get the best out of his squad. So you're saying he is? He's supposed to be a CLEAR improvement on every manager we've had since Royle(and even with that they really overachieved). What about his tenure are you saying he is getting the best out of these players?

 

[tommye]

Why specifically mention Walsh?

It sounds like the target was the board but he didn't have the balls to directly attack them so went for Walsh instead.

He tells Walsh who he would like. Walsh then does the business side of things. This is where Koeman sees failings. That is why he called out Walsh.

 

[davek]

Because we had the easiest start to a season I can remember for a long time. I have never ever said he would carry that on, in fact I thought much the opposite and thought it would be hard to maintain such form. I didn't think we'd be as poor as we are, but still not as poor as martinez season 3.

You've made your judgement on RK mate, nobody will change that and thats fair enough. I think he needs to rid the squad of the deadwood of the Moyes and Martinez eras before he can be judged properly.

He can change that if he gets his head down and stops whingeing and gets this lot playing and winning. I backed Koeman to become our new manager. I want to believe but all I see is disappointment with his play and his attitude. He's just an excuse maker mate.

 

[fozzy]

You don't have a clue.

He ruined the best ajax team, PSV he nearly threw away a title, az I've no words and then feyenoord.

And loads of crap with clubs in between.

Sure that's how I remember it.

 

[ilikecheese]

Tommee jinxed me my bog handles just snapped wheres @Ashtonian when you need him - my sons fixing a new one of the car boot now!

Fight him Tom