Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
get out of my mind!
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get out of my mind!
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
True in partincular if he has money to spend in the next 2 windows and 18 months into his job.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £40m
Fair point.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Mate I am not saying give Koeman 3 years if he keeps on like this but say if he has money to spend in the next two windows and we are still in the same position like now this time next year I am sure most of the fans will make up their mind.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I dont care about "trying to get them more solid" - he has tasked the back four with no duty other than to boot the ball downfield to safety, so I EXPECT less mistakes at the back...unfortunately for Koeman he even fails to make significant inroads here:
last season after 17 games we conceded 24 goals
this season after 17 games we conceded 21 goals
...not much to show for 'being more solid' like is it?...and we'd scored 10 more goals this time last season than we have right now.
Basically he's sacrificed our football brain and attacking intent for a hoof ball game and it's got us worse off.
Mikeonlythebestwilldo
Player Valuation: £20m
3 less then martinez then davek
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I'd give him another two windows and this time next season to improve things drastically. I think he or anyone else deserves at least a season or so to prove themselves.
However, I refuse to be told that Koeman is on track or making anything other than an utter balls up of this team as things stand. I and others know what we see: a hopeless hoofball strategy conducted by a man who fails to accept his responsibility for it. This is his watch now and it has been for 6 months. He's had time enough to get on top of things. He has to be judged on his own merits in terms of how he integrates his own signings with what we had before he arrived. IMO, he's done an absolutely shocking job.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yeah, outstanding given the fact that we dont play out from the back and get most of the team at all times behind the ball, isn't it?
Hurrah - three less goals conceded than over the same period last season. What a leap forward we've got defensively to make up for the fact we have ZERO ATTACKING THREAT anymore.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
The climax of last season was after the new year. 21 points from 20 games. If you say give Koeman next two windows to prove then let's wait till this time next season to judge. It seems you are calling his head whenever we lose.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
That's just not true: I'm saying give him time, but let's judge what's happened so far without any rose tinted glasses.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
You just said this mate: "I'd give him another two windows and this time next season to improve things drastically. I think he or anyone else deserves at least a season or so to prove themselves."
I will say give him time to improve this weak bottom half squad.
...I think this is fair enough. I admit to not being convinced, decisions like bringing on DC-L on right side midfield on Monday are odd, as was the balance on the bench but I accept change comes with angst and disappointments. I hope we see signs in this window of what RK is aiming for and we should have more idea by this time next season.
I would disagree with the hoofball 'strategy'. The stats support the view that we are a long ball team but if we're giving him 2 or 3 windows I think we also have to give him time to define his style of play. At this point it might be more tactical than strategic, with his type of players we might see something different. Only time will tell.
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