Current Affairs Robotics and AI....

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I'm not one to argue with Asimov's predictive track record. It won't happen next week, and probably not next year, but it will happen sooner or later. Sure, he wrote about miniaturization and time travel as well, but his essays show that he knew better on those items.

Nobody was thinking about an atomic bomb in 1933. No one except Szilard was even much considering the possibility of a chain reaction. Rutherford himself would have told you the chain reaction concept was nonsense, and did so in public.

If people inside the industry are saying, "Help!" I am inclined to believe them. It might even be possible to get something done, as this one cuts across party lines.
People in the industry gain from hyping up the power of their technology, and there is no greater power than to threaten our way of life. This feels like Boston Robotics on a mass scale.
 
People in the industry gain from hyping up the power of their technology, and there is no greater power than to threaten our way of life. This feels like Boston Robotics on a mass scale.
Have you considered the possibility that both things may be at work here? You easily could have viewed Oppenheimer and Groves through either lens in 1942. Jobs for the lads and securing funding, or working on a serious project. There were people on both sides of that debate in Washington.

In any event, they're in Washington asking for regulation. No harm done by taking them seriously other than wasting the time of the members of Congress, and it's not like that lot will do anything with the time besides make eyes at cameras. There's an element of shameless self-promotion to it, but that's our society for you.
 
Have you considered the possibility that both things may be at work here? You easily could have viewed Oppenheimer and Groves through either lens in 1942. Jobs for the lads and securing funding, or working on a serious project. There were people on both sides of that debate in Washington.

In any event, they're in Washington asking for regulation. No harm done by taking them seriously other than wasting the time of the members of Congress, and it's not like that lot will do anything with the time besides make eyes at cameras. There's an element of shameless self-promotion to it, but that's our society for you.
I'd feel much more confident of that if they were asking for regulation in things that harmed them and benefited society, but they're not asking for data portability, restrictions on their ability to harvest so much data, or for their companies to be broken up, are they? This is merely creating a smokescreen to make them appear ethical while they continue gaining ever greater market share and huge profits.
 
There has been talk of that for donkey's years. Artificial general intelligence is as much a pipe dream as fusion power.
I don't agree. I think that once quantum computing is refined and developed to the next generation of digital that it will just be a matter of time.

There was talk of human flight for millienia, and of going to the moon. In the grand scheme of our history these things happened fairly quickly after the industrial revelotion. We are in the thick of the digital revolution and I have absolutely no doubt that as computing power/AI is refined, innovation will increase in almost unthinkable ways.

I also believe that as all of this wonder happens Everton will still be finding ways to destroy our hope.
 
I'd feel much more confident of that if they were asking for regulation in things that harmed them and benefited society, but they're not asking for data portability, restrictions on their ability to harvest so much data, or for their companies to be broken up, are they? This is merely creating a smokescreen to make them appear ethical while they continue gaining ever greater market share and huge profits.
100% agree on the industry concerns, think we will have to agree to disagree on the motivations.

They won't do any of the things you ask voluntarily. People in entertainment industries hand over a portion of their take-home to have other people negotiate them higher salaries, not lesser ones. The only way those things happen is if we force the issue, which requires voting for politicians that do it. Not that those candidates are in large supply, seeing how our present monopolists spend the most in campaign contributions to buy favorable policy outcomes.

It's the 1890s all over again, except that circulation yielded more revenue back then than ads did. If you want to put your faith in a media outlet, pick one like The New York Times with a subscription-based revenue model. Non-profits like The Guardian and The Philadelphia Inquirer are arguably even better, though that approach also aggravates the problem of slant. (Like The Washington Post would ever run deep criticism of Amazon. As if.)
 
I don't agree. I think that once quantum computing is refined and developed to the next generation of digital that it will just be a matter of time.

There was talk of human flight for millienia, and of going to the moon. In the grand scheme of our history these things happened fairly quickly after the industrial revelotion. We are in the thick of the digital revolution and I have absolutely no doubt that as computing power/AI is refined, innovation will increase in almost unthinkable ways.

I also believe that as all of this wonder happens Everton will still be finding ways to destroy our hope.
That's kind of what I mean. Quantum computing is another technology that promises great things and is always just around the corner. Autonomous vehicles is probably another. People get massively carried away and assume that these things are easy to complete, when in reality they're ridiculously hard.
 
See Musk is slating working from home as morally wrong whilst at the same time developing robots for manual labour jobs and AI systems for more complex work….. wonder what his intention is for the human workforce usurped by his creations?
 
See Musk is slating working from home as morally wrong whilst at the same time developing robots for manual labour jobs and AI systems for more complex work….. wonder what his intention is for the human workforce usurped by his creations?
He'll need a lot of petro chemical in his portfolio, because the only bleeders that'll have any work and so then any cash will be his robots that'll require their bearings reoiled.
 
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Bit of an open goal this.
I'm on the fence with AI and art. On the one hand, it is blatant plagiarism because AI isn't smart and is just using a catalogue of other peoples' work.

On the other hand, it is funny seeing pop stars crying about how it will put them out of work. After all, art is inherently worthless and in musical terms, the top artists have made millions, in most cases, for singing what someone else wrote for them.
 
That's kind of what I mean. Quantum computing is another technology that promises great things and is always just around the corner. Autonomous vehicles is probably another. People get massively carried away and assume that these things are easy to complete, when in reality they're ridiculously hard.
I believe quantum is a lot closer than around the corner. It might still be at the stage of the early computers in terms of design but with the knowledge and capabilities of today I believe that refinement will be a shorter process in many respects. There is a race on and big hitters like IBM will be doing their best to be the winners, as will China.



 
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