Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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Hmm...

I'm not sure.

In hindsight, yes. But I think the turning point was Arsenal.

After WHU, many turned, including myself - though I was willing to give him a chance. Chelsea was that chance and like you mentioned that was a great display all-round from everybody.

However, Arsenal we were useless and then I think it was clear the players looked lost under him. I think he then lost the dressing room completely when he tried to throw Baines under the bus, so to speak.

The players aren't playing for him and you can't just turn it on like a tap, as bad as some of them have been and as much as they must also share some of the blame.

100% he lost the team completely in that West Ham game in retrospect, that sub i think was the moment any remaining faith some players had in him went out the window, think myself the Baines incident was when they as a unit thought right we want to get him out asap
 

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You put their name in quotes like that as if Kenwright referring to them that way is supportive of the argument - have you EVER heard a Chairman refer to their manager by anything other than their first name. I guess it may have happened now and then, but would be far from the norm
so you dont think kenwright got a bit too friendly with moyes and Martinez ( I said there surname's just for you )

Watch the video from yesterday and you may change your mind .
 

With respect mate, Bill looked in decent health in that vid yesterday showing him swatting somebodys phone.

Anyway, I do think the plan is still "review" at end of season.

A very foolish move I feel for everybody concerned.

I hope not Goat. My view is release him now, get new chap to play out the season to assess the players and make decisions in the summer. That to me makes the greatest sense whether our Directors can see that or not is another matter. Remember in that last Pl game did not Woods walk out at half time?
 

so you dont think kenwright got a bit too friendly with moyes and Martinez ( I said there surname's just for you )

Watch the video from yesterday and you may change your mind .
I've seen the video. I don't think it's really indicative of anything to be honest. What exactly were you expecting him to say? "He's a **** and will be getting sacked first thing Monday"?
 
As a Martinez apologist, I have to concede, I really do. The toxicity towards him is too far gone.

The standard of available candidates is low. By Christ, how I wish Bilic was gettable. Honesty and dignity sum him and our club up and would have been the perfect marriage. I find myself erring towards Nigel Pearson.

That reminds me, our clock needs winding up.
 
Cheers Goat, and yeah see what you mean - looks a lot healthier

Especially the moment he does a a move reminiscient of when Roger Cook confronts a dodgy timeshare salesman after weeks of undercover video evidence

Im happy hes attending games and looks a lot better, the words out his mouth still irritate me, but if Moshiri is what I think he is, I will be grateful.
 
I've seen the video. I don't think it's really indicative of anything to be honest. What exactly were you expecting him to say? "He's a **** and will be getting sacked first thing Monday"?
No but he could be diplomatic and have respect for the blue who spent his hard earned money taking him and his kids to Wembley and not act like a bitch and shove the camera . He isn't usually shy of the limelight.
 
Im happy hes attending games and looks a lot better, the words out his mouth still irritate me, but if Moshiri is what I think he is, I will be grateful.

Aye same, regardless of what i think of his time in charge he is still a blue, just don't want him having any actual influence at the club any more and honestly i don't think he does at this stage now
 

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