Riots in Ukraine

[Chang Elephant]

Here she is pictured in Kiev last summer

 

[pbeyer]

Here she is pictured in Kiev last summer

nice work keeping this one on topic with Ukraine mate, boss move.

 

[magicjuan]

Poland invoking article 4 at NATO, i.e. it feels its independence is threatened and is calling all 28 members to consult, its Threads I'm tellin' ya...

 

[davek]

US preparing sanctions against Russia
Poland wanting Nato action
Merkel on the blower to Putin

...Cameron assures Russian oligarchs they're ok to go on making a mint in the City of London.

Ha Ha. You couldn't make these hypocritical spineless bastards up.

 

[SerenityNigh]

I have little wisdom to add to this discussion, and will attempt to refrain from comments re: Lady Physio, but these events seem large in directing what will happen in the next 10 or so years (next 50?). The Russian economy doesn't have a good trend, and the policy trends of the past 10 years suggest future growth in state/resource areas instead of private industry. Put on top of that the $50B spent on the Olympics (2.5% GDP?), and it's entirely possible that these events are precursor to war or the economic collapse (again) of the Russian state. Neither would be entirely pretty.

 

[wikofootball]

http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/tema/2014/ukraine

 

[Millea]

Can someone explain to me what's going on? I don't really get it as silly as that sounds.

I'm just a naive 18 year old who can't wait for the summer to go on holiday and go to Leeds, but I do like to know what's going on in the world, especially something that seems pretty big like this.

 

[peteblue]

Can someone explain to me what's going on? I don't really get it as silly as that sounds.

I'm just a naive 18 year old who can't wait for the summer to go on holiday and go to Leeds, but I do like to know what's going on in the world, especially something that seems pretty big like this.

A big lads mate has been getting a bit close to another gang. The big lad put some of his boys in front of his mates house and took over the patio and back garden. The other gang are trying to work out how they can help or if they can make any money out of it............

 

[Millea]

A big lads mate has been getting a bit close to another gang. The big lad put some of his boys in front of his mates house and took over the patio and back garden. The other gang are trying to work out how they can help or if they can make any money out of it............

Thank you Pete.

 

[Tubey]

Can someone explain to me what's going on? I don't really get it as silly as that sounds.

I'm just a naive 18 year old who can't wait for the summer to go on holiday and go to Leeds, but I do like to know what's going on in the world, especially something that seems pretty big like this.

Ukraine had an overwhelming pro-Russia government. That government had also politically imprisoned leading opposition leaders. Protests started from those who wanted closer ties to the EU and the end of corruption.

The protests culminated in the regime collapsing with the president fleeing to Russia. An interim government was set up, consisting of those with EU leaning desires.

Russia have got upset as they preferred a puppet state on their borders. They sense that Ukraine may fall to the EU. As such, they have annexed what they see as their rightful land/people, taking over a region called Crimea.

The Ukrainians see this as an invasion of their sovereign territory and are preparing for war. They cannot hope to actually fight Russia, and they'd need the backing of the EU/USA - however, there is no appetite whatsoever from the west to back them with any more than meaningless words and useless sanctions.

As such, the likelihood is that we have a standoff in the long term, where Russia control Crimea but Ukraine does not recognise their right to it. The Crimean border essentially becomes the new Berlin wall.

 

[peteblue]

Ukraine had an overwhelming pro-Russia government. That government had also politically imprisoned leading opposition leaders. Protests started from those who wanted closer ties to the EU and the end of corruption.

The protests culminated in the regime collapsing with the president fleeing to Russia. An interim government was set up, consisting of those with EU leaning desires.

Russia have got upset as they preferred a puppet state on their borders. They sense that Ukraine may fall to the EU. As such, they have annexed what they see as their rightful land/people, taking over a region called Crimea.

The Ukrainians see this as an invasion of their sovereign territory and are preparing for war. They cannot hope to actually fight Russia, and they'd need the backing of the EU/USA - however, there is no appetite whatsoever from the west to back them with any more than meaningless words and useless sanctions.

As such, the likelihood is that we have a standoff in the long term, where Russia control Crimea but Ukraine does not recognise their right to it. The Crimean border essentially becomes the new Berlin wall.

I'd already explained it mate......

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

check mate to Vlad

 

[Millea]

Ukraine had an overwhelming pro-Russia government. That government had also politically imprisoned leading opposition leaders. Protests started from those who wanted closer ties to the EU and the end of corruption.

The protests culminated in the regime collapsing with the president fleeing to Russia. An interim government was set up, consisting of those with EU leaning desires.

Russia have got upset as they preferred a puppet state on their borders. They sense that Ukraine may fall to the EU. As such, they have annexed what they see as their rightful land/people, taking over a region called Crimea.

The Ukrainians see this as an invasion of their sovereign territory and are preparing for war. They cannot hope to actually fight Russia, and they'd need the backing of the EU/USA - however, there is no appetite whatsoever from the west to back them with any more than meaningless words and useless sanctions.

As such, the likelihood is that we have a standoff in the long term, where Russia control Crimea but Ukraine does not recognise their right to it. The Crimean border essentially becomes the new Berlin wall.

Ahh, I see. I didn't really get much of it before reading this I just saw snippets of protests and Russian troops and them having jet fighters by the border.

Thanks for this mate.

Complex world sometimes isn't it?

 

[davek]

The EU will hold an 'emergency meeting' on the situation in the Ukraine...on Thursday.

Ha Ha. In your own time lads.

It must have sounded like a great idea getting involved in the Ukraine...now they're bricking it.

Never mess with the Russians, they ALWAYS play the long game.

 

[canuckblue]

The EU will hold an 'emergency meeting' on the situation in the Ukraine...on Thursday.

Ha Ha. In your own time lads.

It must have sounded like a great idea getting involved in the Ukraine...now they're bricking it.

Never mess with the Russians, they ALWAYS play the long game.

Kinda like Liverpool at the moment.