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The fans, the 14 clubs, fifa and Uefa , sky have all had a wake up call. We have created a monster and they will be back demanding more money as they have a global brand. We need to use this now to revamp the game to protect the sport. Any ideas.
 
The fans, the 14 clubs, fifa and Uefa , sky have all had a wake up call. We have created a monster and they will be back demanding more money as they have a global brand. We need to use this now to revamp the game to protect the sport. Any ideas.

Love your enthusiasm.

But UEFA will crawl back under their rock, the 12 will be coming back and Ceferins comments towards Manchester City basically sum up their opinion.

We’d be so much better without those teams, they’re boring, it’s boring and they will now be getting even more money than ever thanks to the UEFA reform.

But one thing we will take is that Everton stood up today and backed every football in the country and made us feel proud. Silver linings in a rotten world of football.
 
Don’t give prize money for winning tournements etc. The incentive should be purely sporting.
any money generated during a tournament/competition should be distributed equally amongst the competitors.
Great idea.
Maybe prize money for clubs not in the top division as an incentive?

Here's another plan- a competition only between the winners of each league in Europe. An unseeded draw, two leg knockout format?

And another competition that pits all the winners of domestic cups together.

And another knock out for all the 2nd perhaps 3rd place runners up around Europe? Should be some good names in that draw to spice it up.

Bring it on.
 
In Man Utds statement just now they said football needs reform. The 14 premier league clubs, the efl teams & below & the same applies to the other European leagues should get together & reform & sustain football. The dirty scummy clubs should have no say at all. They have already spoken. It was heard. We said no. They should except what is fairly decided across the vast majority of European football clubs & shut up. It's the only way i can think of punishing the clubs without punishing the fans or players of the dirty scummy few.
 
The fans, the 14 clubs, fifa and Uefa , sky have all had a wake up call. We have created a monster and they will be back demanding more money as they have a global brand. We need to use this now to revamp the game to protect the sport. Any ideas.


I think the first thing that needs to happen is for Sky, BT, BBC, talkSport and the rest of the media to drop this ludicrous “Big Six” nomenclature.

This is what has fostered this sense of entitlement, the sense of exceptionalism and downright arrogance that precipitated this crisis.
 
What would everyone think of a salary cap? I honestly don't know if it would be good or bad, just curious to see other's thoughts. As a fan of American football, I know it works well to keep the same teams from amassing talent long term. Could it work in Europe?
 
Real reform would have to come from the FIFA/UEFA level down. This does not make me optimistic.

If they're committed to change, the place to start is by giving people other than the biggest fish a place at the table. They should be hearing from a big fish supporter's trust, as well as folks further down the pyramid. Ditto the clubs. If you think the biggest fish that have broadcasting money are in the soup, imagine what it's like down in League Two.

There needs to be some discussion of what the common ground is. There's a pretty big chasm between the 'haves' and the 'have nots'. UEFA has been serving the interests of the 'haves' for a long time. That's not sustainable. It's how we ended up in this mess, where the 'haves' tried to amass even more power and wealth at the expense of everyone else. They've been trained that they can get away with it. They need to learn that they're facing a united front now, and that the old ways no longer apply.

There needs to be some discussion of where the differences are, what the appropriate sacrifices various interests will have to make are, and how to address the challenges that everyone is confronting as well as the ones that vary across countries and levels of the pyramid.

In short, there needs to be a commitment to egalitarianism and collective action towards shared values that wasn't there before, and it needs to be clear that those who demonstrate that they are not committed to those principles will be sanctioned.

Those same discussions need to be happening within the countries' leagues and pyramids, so that they know where they stand collectively.

Without those answers, it's very hard to make substantive policy recommendations.
 
What would everyone think of a salary cap? I honestly don't know if it would be good or bad, just curious to see other's thoughts. As a fan of American football, I know it works well to keep the same teams from amassing talent long term. Could it work in Europe?
I don't think it a salary cap would work.

What needs changed.

-Implement roster caps and a rule that you could loan out players, 3 players only.

-B teams that are allowed to play in lower leagues should be hit by a meteor

-your a human rights violator who wants to own a club, go ahead, you get to buy 1 club only. Get rid of loosely or tightly related farm clubs in other countries.
 
We’d be so much better without those teams, they’re boring, it’s boring and they will now be getting even more money than ever thanks to the UEFA reform.

But one thing we will take is that Everton stood up today and backed every football in the country and made us feel proud. Silver linings in a rotten world of football.
I honestly would have no problem if they left. Its just they wanted to leave and stay at the same time.
 
Real reform would have to come from the FIFA/UEFA level down. This does not make me optimistic.

If they're committed to change, the place to start is by giving people other than the biggest fish a place at the table. They should be hearing from a big fish supporter's trust, as well as folks further down the pyramid. Ditto the clubs. If you think the biggest fish that have broadcasting money are in the soup, imagine what it's like down in League Two.

There needs to be some discussion of what the common ground is. There's a pretty big chasm between the 'haves' and the 'have nots'. UEFA has been serving the interests of the 'haves' for a long time. That's not sustainable. It's how we ended up in this mess, where the 'haves' tried to amass even more power and wealth at the expense of everyone else. They've been trained that they can get away with it. They need to learn that they're facing a united front now, and that the old ways no longer apply.

There needs to be some discussion of where the differences are, what the appropriate sacrifices various interests will have to make are, and how to address the challenges that everyone is confronting as well as the ones that vary across countries and levels of the pyramid.

In short, there needs to be a commitment to egalitarianism and collective action towards shared values that wasn't there before, and it needs to be clear that those who demonstrate that they are not committed to those principles will be sanctioned.

Those same discussions need to be happening within the countries' leagues and pyramids, so that they know where they stand collectively.

Without those answers, it's very hard to make substantive policy recommendations.
Does it need to come from the top down. Open to being called out as wrong here, but I believe the English fa have the power to determine who their qualifiers are for Europe etc.. it may be that they can take some unilateral action if they grow a pair
 
What would everyone think of a salary cap? I honestly don't know if it would be good or bad, just curious to see other's thoughts. As a fan of American football, I know it works well to keep the same teams from amassing talent long term. Could it work in Europe?


I think it is a brilliant idea.
 
I don't think it a salary cap would work.

What needs changed.

-Implement roster caps and a rule that you could loan out players, 3 players only.

-B teams that are allowed to play in lower leagues should be hit by a meteor

-your a human rights violator who wants to own a club, go ahead, you get to buy 1 club only. Get rid of loosely or tightly related farm clubs in other countries.
A true salary cap seems hard but some kind of tighter restrictions than what happened with FFP need to be made. I feel like a cap that basically said "your squad for the CL can only be paid x amount" would work as no one with that level of money would forfeit Europe to win the domestic leagues. It doesn't help a lot of teams but at least unlike FFP it doesn't kill upward mobility.
 
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