Remembering Moyes

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Ihaters said:
Great post, good stats, nice opinions, well written, would read again...
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At least you followed my advice and set the spade aside ;)

Life is too short to waste your time beavering away looking up league positions from the last century and pontificating on how exciting it is to have an average sixth place finish over an average eleventh place finish....or whatever your final scores on the door were....:)

Enjoy the new paradigm, Ihaters.

(actually I thought you were and had finally got over your Moyes fixation but seemingly not :confused:)
 
Khalekan said:
At least you followed my advice and set the spade aside ;)

Life is too short to waste your time beavering away looking up league positions from the last century and pontificating on how exciting it is to have an average sixth place finish over an average eleventh place finish....or whatever your final scores on the door were....:)

Enjoy the new paradigm, Ihaters.

(actually I thought you were and had finally got over your Moyes fixation but seemingly not :confused:)
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Another tremendous post of great content.

Perhaps if you can think of something of substance to contribute with we can discuss it, until then you should enjoy your definitely being over Moyes, outside of Moyes threads which as per usual, was not created by myself. Or maybe get back to the actual conversation without the bellend comments, there really is no need.

As you well know I am commenting on how much of an improvement Moyes made, not how exciting 6th place is, but.. hell, you know what? breaking the top 4 in this day and age under the circumstances, was pretty ****ing exciting and having a crack at the champions league after the decade we had just had was pretty ace and I loved it even if we were robbed. And I have a preference to fighting for Europe over fighting to stay in the league, and I enjoyed watching us grow into a quality team over watching us become less and less of the 80's and more and more dogs of war...just my preference I guess.

Oh and the average finish, certainly wouldn't of been 11th by the way we only did better than 13th once.
 

NEC said:
A well structured post but for me I like to use Joe Royle as a measuring stick for Moyes. He took over the club in similar circumstances but really did galvanise us in a positive "we are gonna give you a game" way. He won the FA Cup in pretty good style too.

I respect Moyes for the way in which he balanced the books very well. I do not respect that his unease at lack of funding was bought of with a £70k a week salary, nor did I like the fact that he dampened expectations when he actually constructed a team good enough to play far better and more adventurous.

Whilst all this was ongoing he carried himself with an air of arrogance and when the fans questioned his decisions he responded churlishly. I remember too well him replacing Jelavic with Heitinga at 1-1 against Bolton and when Heitinga got the winner he became all smug.

He had his good points, was hard working, dilligent etc but for me he was here 5 years too long.
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Good post and I'd say about three years too long but can't argue with five.

It started getting good and stale after awhile.
 

NEC said:
A well structured post but for me I like to use Joe Royle as a measuring stick for Moyes. He took over the club in similar circumstances but really did galvanise us in a positive "we are gonna give you a game" way. He won the FA Cup in pretty good style too.
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I loved Joe Royle but you have to look at the bigger picture.

He took over the club in a worse position and scrapped our way to safety and won the FA cup that season - great stuff but it was scrappier than any of the stuff we played under Moyes.
In the next 2 seasons he spent more (net) than Moyes was given in 10 years. I believe we were the second biggest spenders in the league. The likes of Kanchelskis, Ferguson, Short and Barmby cost an absolute fortune at that time - Short was the most expensive defender ever (a record we broke when signing Bilic). We finished 6th the next season (our only decent finish pre-Moyes) but the season after we were awful and only just stayed up and he quit with 6 games to go.
 
Timak said:
I loved Joe Royle but you have to look at the bigger picture.

He took over the club in a worse position and scrapped our way to safety and won the FA cup that season - great stuff but it was scrappier than any of the stuff we played under Moyes.
In the next 2 seasons he spent more (net) than Moyes was given in 10 years. I believe we were the second biggest spenders in the league. The likes of Kanchelskis, Ferguson, Short and Barmby cost an absolute fortune at that time - Short was the most expensive defender ever (a record we broke when signing Bilic). We finished 6th the next season (our only decent finish pre-Moyes) but the season after we were awful and only just stayed up and he quit with 6 games to go.
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He won a trophy and DM was given money and won nothing !
 

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