Relegation

MACCA75 · April 3, 2022

Muggins said:
Injured:

Patterson,
Coleman?,
Gomes,
Delph,
Davies,
Mina,
De Beek
Townsend

Suspended:

Allan
Keane

Not arsed:

Alli
El Ghazi
Calvert Lewin
Rondon

I’ve stacked it vertically as that’s quite shocking like you say! Welcome to Everton Frank!

Forgot Onyango is injured too isn’t he.

matty1878 · April 3, 2022

the fixtures just tell me we’re gone

DaChunk · April 3, 2022

It was cemented after the spurs game lads, just embrace it the time for worry and alarm has been and gone.

Del-boy · April 3, 2022

I think we are done. Watford gave Liverpool a game yesterday and should have scored two. They will replace us by the end of next weekend.

Drico · April 3, 2022

matty1878 said:
the fixtures just tell me we’re gone

Wednesday is our cup final. Lose that and we can start to accept reality. A draw probably prolongs the agony. A win will help pull us clear. I suspect Burnley have targeted this game and the match with Norwich as their life raft. So, if we can somehow beat them on Wednesday, I think they'll potentially drop points to Norwich too. However, lose Wednesday and they could well go back to back and we'll fall into the death spiral.

A draw is better than a loss, obviously, and it is the bare minimum we HAVE to take, but I think we need the win. I've made peace with the idea that if we cannot beat Burnley, we will be deservedly relegated.

matty1878 · April 3, 2022

Drico said:
Wednesday is our cup final. Lose that and we can start to accept reality. A draw probably prolongs the agony. A win will help pull us clear. I suspect Burnley have targeted this game and the match with Norwich as their life raft. So, if we can somehow beat them on Wednesday, I think they'll potentially drop points to Norwich too. However, lose Wednesday and they could well go back to back and we'll fall into the death spiral.

A draw is better than a loss, obviously, and it is the bare minimum we HAVE to take, but I think we need the win. I've made peace with the idea that if we cannot beat Burnley, we will be deservedly relegated.

we won’t beat burnley we will be bullied all on the park

Sharpattack · April 3, 2022

matty1878 said:
the fixtures just tell me we’re gone

I just can’t see where points are coming from. If the Watford and Burnley games were at GP we might stand some chance. I’d take a point on Wednesday. Shows how bad things are that a point at Turf Moor is like winning the cup.

MikeH72 · April 3, 2022

Drico said:
Wednesday is our cup final. Lose that and we can start to accept reality. A draw probably prolongs the agony. A win will help pull us clear. I suspect Burnley have targeted this game and the match with Norwich as their life raft. So, if we can somehow beat them on Wednesday, I think they'll potentially drop points to Norwich too. However, lose Wednesday and they could well go back to back and we'll fall into the death spiral.

A draw is better than a loss, obviously, and it is the bare minimum we HAVE to take, but I think we need the win. I've made peace with the idea that if we cannot beat Burnley, we will be deservedly relegated.

We are not beating Burnley. We have to get a draw.

Drico · April 3, 2022

matty1878 said:
we won’t beat burnley we will be bullied all on the park

Well, that's that so. We deserve to drop. And we will. I have no interest in begging to stay up in the top flight if we are incapable of saving ourselves. Wednesday will tell a tale. If we can summon up our scrotums, we might surprise ourselves.

CharliePotato · April 3, 2022

If we get beat by Burnley then that looks like it’s it. Can’t see us getting much out of the remaining games. Shows how bad we are because the leauge this year has been a terrible standard apart from the obvious 2.

Ghost Rider · April 3, 2022

Drico said:
Wednesday is our cup final. Lose that and we can start to accept reality. A draw probably prolongs the agony. A win will help pull us clear. I suspect Burnley have targeted this game and the match with Norwich as their life raft. So, if we can somehow beat them on Wednesday, I think they'll potentially drop points to Norwich too. However, lose Wednesday and they could well go back to back and we'll fall into the death spiral.

A draw is better than a loss, obviously, and it is the bare minimum we HAVE to take, but I think we need the win. I've made peace with the idea that if we cannot beat Burnley, we will be deservedly relegated.

My concern is that losing against Burnley and the fans and players will also accept it.

Plenty of games left that we have no right to get anything from but a fighting side may just fluke a win or draw from them at home. That's if we win.

If the fans turn then we lose the only thing we have left to stay up, a home advantage. If these players start eyeing up their next move after relegation 10 games early then we have no chance.

I expected a point today but I am genuinely concerned just watching us that there is nothing to put my hope in. No glimmer of a performance from a player that makes me think what if. The sheer fact we just gave away a point today proves it.

Drico · April 3, 2022

MikeH72 said:
We are not beating Burnley. We have to get a draw.

I doubt it'll be enough. We have two must-win games as far as I'm concerned. Burnley and Watford. I doubt we'll win one, let alone two, but I won't moan about the drop if we can't beat those two. We will find our true level.

Ghost Rider · April 3, 2022

Drico said:
Well, that's that so. We deserve to drop. And we will. I have no interest in begging to stay up in the top flight if we are incapable of saving ourselves. Wednesday will tell a tale. If we can summon up our scrotums, we might surprise ourselves.

Yet what difference does it make? We summoned our scotums for Newcastle and then lost the next 2.

The sheer fact we only have 2 games we expect to win is part of the problem we have.

Drico · April 3, 2022

Ghost Rider said:
My concern is that losing against Burnley and the fans and players will also accept it.

Plenty of games left that we have no right to get anything from but a fighting side may just fluke a win or draw from them at home. That's if we win.

If the fans turn then we lose the only thing we have left to stay up, a home advantage. If these players start eyeing up their next move after relegation 10 games early then we have no chance.

I expected a point today but I am genuinely concerned just watching us that there is nothing to put my hope in. No glimmer of a performance from a player that makes me think what if. The sheer fact we just gave away a point today proves it.

Oh, I'll definitely accept it if we lose at Burnley. It's the only safe thing to do for mental health.

I don't think it's a question of the fans "turning". But you can't make idiots of the fans week-in, week-out and expect turbo-charged goodwill as you lose 16 games in 21

Wednesday is it as far as I am concerned. Win that and we'll survive. If the players cannot rouse themselves to a performance with that prize, then we all need to put ourselves out of our misery.