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catcherintherye said:
I prefer Celtic, but have a respect for both teams. You are goading me and others in every post, waffling on about Fenians killing 10 year olds and advising me to board up my windows. You have also praised LFC for putting anti-Fenian graffiti up which is a very obvious attempt to wind Evertonians up, as you are praising the bigotry of our neighbours.

If you want to come on here to discuss football, good luck to you. If you want to rant on reproducing ignorant and bigoted tropes, then go somewhere else, as you will be challenged here.
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I told you to board up your windows ? really ? I goading you by correcting your falsehoods and utter tripe. Aye Ok then.
I never mentioned anything about killing 10 year old children either, do you struggle with comprehension?
Epic fail once again. A broken clock is right more times than you kid.

I haven't mentioned religion, other than to say it doesn't concern people, faith is a personal thing and if it provides comfort to some people then good on them. You seem to go on about it a fair bit.

I didn't come on here to discuss Steven Gerrard, why would I want to discuss an ex Liverpool player on an Everton forum?
You'd like that wouldn't you?
 
William said:
I told you to board up your windows ? really ? I goading you by correcting your falsehoods and utter tripe. Aye Ok then.
I never mentioned anything about killing 10 year old children either, do you struggle with comprehension?
Epic fail once again. A broken clock is right more times than you kid.

I haven't mentioned religion, other than to say it doesn't concern people, faith is a personal thing and if it provides comfort to some people then good on them. You seem to go on about it a fair bit.

I didn't come on here to discuss Steven Gerrard, why would I want to discuss an ex Liverpool player on an Everton forum?
You'd like that wouldn't you?
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William you have mentioned the Fenian movement killing a mother with 10 children. I'm asking you to reference this.

You don't just talk tripe, but it is hateful bigoted nonsense.

As for Gerrard, I am after your opinion. I think one can tell a lot about the integrity, decency and standards of a human being by how they would view an absolute sewer rat like Gerrard. I can imagine most Rangers fans will epically fail, but I'm giving you the chance to do the decent thing and try to turn around what is a fairly poor reputation your clubs supporters have, re enforced by your own conduct by being decent enough to call out Gerrards behaviour. What's your take?

Would you join in with Evertonians the next time we sing "we are going to have a party, when Steven Gerrard dies" as the song was aptly sung at away games?
 
Yesterday was an eye opener
Speaking about mcginn at hibs:
McCoist
" it shouldn't matter about his celtic connection rangers should go for him all that's in the past "
Alan Stubbs
"With his celtic connection he will probably end up there"
His contract is up next season.

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catcherintherye said:
My mum went to school with Gerrards mum mate and his family were Catholic. I have no idea if they still are, or whether Steven is and as I've said I have no interest. You asked why people would call him a Fenian, I answered, because ignorant bigots will make a value judgement against him. The sort of bigots like you who drone on inaccurately representing history.

I didn't bring any tripe into the football thread. You mentioned peadophiles and terrorists to the discussion. I responded by saying you are an idiot for doing so. You have kicked up a massive tantrum because of being challenged for doing so, and are now saying I introduced them.

In your head, "fenians out" alongside a colour bar system against makes perfect sense. But that's because you are a bigot and can see common cause in the bigoted position adopted by our neighbours. I strongly urge you to go and share your bigotry with them if that's your position, as Everton Football Club have always, and will always be a welcoming place to people from all religious backgrounds.

Again I have no intention of discussing people murdering widows and children. Why are you continually bringing up completely inappropriate and offensive examples onto a thread about a football club? Is this what Rangers means to you? Crudely misrepresenting an awful struggle that led to countless numbers of families suffering? Maybe ponder on that, and consider why people tend to be more sympathetic to Celtic, as if Rangers fans are like you (and many I've met are) come on to opposing teams forums, straw man what others are saying, praise the bigoted approach of their rivals and insult the supporters you are going to alienate people and it is classic "kopite behaviour".

On a slight point, can you give me the example of when the 19th century Fenian movement, murdered a widow and killed 10 children? If you cannot substantiate that claim, I strongly suggest you withdraw it, with an apology to both them, and the followers of this forum as you will be part of a process that encouraged a bigoted institution like LFC actively perpetuate a segregationist approach based on said ignorant ideas to the detriment of our city and our football club.

Finally you have an absolute cheek, when supporting a club like Rangers and introducing your filth, ignorance and bigotry to this forum to insinuate that Everton and Evertonian's need to "board up our windows" before throwing glass stones. As a football club we have always been very proud to represent all aspects of our community and have always stood against the sort of sectarianism represented by the utter scum across the park with their "fenians out" "the cry was no surrender" sloganeering (the sort that you find admirable). We will never, ever have to take an apologetic tone for our conduct in relation to them, or in relation to the likes of you.

If you think what I put is tripe, thats absolutely your right. I have no problems with Rangers fans, Corkblue and Redstar and informed posters who do great credit to Rangers. However coming on here, and bizarrely linking peadophiles, a small band of Irish revolutionaries from hundreds of years ago, the deaths experienced in Northern Ireland in a conspiratorial manner praise LFC for it's stance is reprehensible. So too is to wrongly alert that I introduced the paradigm (it was you who did) and I would appreciate an apology for that. Once you have done that, and are challenged you continue to dig deeper by introducing more offensive and incorrect examples and then sign off by saying "I don't want to talk about it". Stop talking historical incorrect rubbish.

I see you've had a dig at me being "more a Celtic man". As I indicated above, maybe reflect on your own conduct and consider how it likely drives decent people towards your opponents. You display the same entitled confusion we see from the Kopites when they can't gather why everyone hates them. Oh and given you're on an Everton forum, I'd appreciate it if you'd be decent enough to give an honest assessment of that lowlife thug Gerrard.
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You've no interest in Religion but you keep going on and on about it.
All Christians are Catholic, I think you mean Roman Catholic and once again you are wrong he is not RC, He is CoE, but what does it matter and why are you so obsessed by a persons faith?

A Fenian isn't a religion, I've told you before but you don't really take things in too well.
They have no church, so sabbath, no deity, no scriptures and they are as far from Christianity as you could ever be.

Once again you got it all wrong I never said the IRA murdered a widow and 10 children. I said they abducted, tortured and murdered a widow with 10 children. Jean McConville.

You're really going off on one here kid, take a deep breath and settle down. Why are you attempting to paint me as some sort of Liverpool fan, does that suit your blatant agenda. never been to a Liverpool game in my life, never been to Anfield and have no intention of doing so.
Liverpool seem to have more of an affiliation with Celtic and half Celtic/Liverpool scarves are common here.

You like Steven Gerrard don't you, Gerrard and Relgion appear to be your core topics.
 
Alanbileysfeathercut said:
Yesterday was an eye opener
Speaking about mcginn at hibs:
McCoist
" it shouldn't matter about his celtic connection rangers should go for him all that's in the past "
Alan Stubbs
"With his celtic connection he will probably end up there"
His contract is up next season.

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Hibs will not sell to Rangers and McGinn probably wouldn't sign anyway.
His grandfather Jack McGinn was the Celtic chairman. He is a decent player and if Celtic come in he will sign for them.
That was a game and a half yesterday, Keystone Cops defending.
 
catcherintherye said:
William you have mentioned the Fenian movement killing a mother with 10 children. I'm asking you to reference this.

You don't just talk tripe, but it is hateful bigoted nonsense.

As for Gerrard, I am after your opinion. I think one can tell a lot about the integrity, decency and standards of a human being by how they would view an absolute sewer rat like Gerrard. I can imagine most Rangers fans will epically fail, but I'm giving you the chance to do the decent thing and try to turn around what is a fairly poor reputation your clubs supporters have, re enforced by your own conduct by being decent enough to call out Gerrards behaviour. What's your take?

Would you join in with Evertonians the next time we sing "we are going to have a party, when Steven Gerrard dies" as the song was aptly sung at away games?
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You obviously know more about Gerrard than me, So maybe if you share some facts about him I will be able to give an informed opinion.

I'm not sure I would join in any song about having a party when someone dies, If you like to sing such songs them that says more about you I'm afraid.
 
William said:
You've no interest in Religion but you keep going on and on about it.
All Christians are Catholic, I think you mean Roman Catholic and once again you are wrong he is not RC, He is CoE, but what does it matter and why are you so obsessed by a persons faith?

A Fenian isn't a religion, I've told you before but you don't really take things in too well.
They have no church, so sabbath, no deity, no scriptures and they are as far from Christianity as you could ever be.

Once again you got it all wrong I never said the IRA murdered a widow and 10 children. I said they abducted, tortured and murdered a widow with 10 children. Jean McConville.

You're really going off on one here kid, take a deep breath and settle down. Why are you attempting to paint me as some sort of Liverpool fan, does that suit your blatant agenda. never been to a Liverpool game in my life, never been to Anfield and have no intention of doing so.
Liverpool seem to have more of an affiliation with Celtic and half Celtic/Liverpool scarves are common here.

You like Steven Gerrard don't you, Gerrard and Relgion appear to be your core topics.
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William, a different poster to me referred to Rangers fans as Zombies. You then responded in kind making reference to peadophiles and terrorists. That was an inappropriate response to most decent, none bigoted people.

In your response you asked why people might assume Gerrard was a Fenian. I answered because his family were Roman Catholics. I couldn't care less what his faith is, or was, but in the minds of bigots there is an association between Catholicism and Fenianism. You have correctly pointed out it's a silly link and I agree with you. The Fenian movement had as many prominent Protestants as Catholics, and it's stupid all round. It goes on though. I should have made it more explicit in my answer, which I had hoped would be assumed, people might call Gerrard a Fenian, because there are a lot of stupid people out there who assume one's theological perspective automatically determines their position on a political movement hundreds of years ago.

I appreciate your clarification. Either way you again miss the substance of the point. Why are you bringing into the discussion the IRA? Like your comment about peadophiles it's not appropriate. It also continues in the tradition I outlined above, of small minded, bigoted people falsifying the actions of the Fenian movement. The Fenian movement disbanded over 100 years before the incident you have described above. The murder of the woman was committed in a different century, by a completely separate organisation, with separate goals, a separate agenda, in a separate context in a separate country. The fact you crudely lump them together, or use the actions of the IRA to justify the position of Liverpool Football Club is disgraceful.

I will ask you again, provide me the evidence, of the Fenian Brotherhood, the one you seem to think you are an expert of (and the one that disbanded in 1880) of killing a widow with 10 children. If you are unable to do so, you need to retract the statement, and provide an apology to that movement for a factually incorrect statement.

I am not trying to paint you as anything, you are doing a very good job of that yourself. So far on this thread, you have made crudely brought into the discussion peadophilia, terrorism and other discussions that are neither relevant or helpful in the discussion. At every possible opportunity you seem to dig further, and bring more inappropriate material into the discussion, this time the murder of a mother. What underpins this belief it's an acceptable way to be, is this weird conspiracy theory you evidently have about Irish Republicanism. It only really makes sense in the head of someone incredibly stupid (which I do not believe you to be) or someone who is a bigot.

I can't stand Steven Gerrard. He's a coward who put numerous career ending challenges in on Everton players, attacks innocent people in bars etc. A vision of everything that is wrong with humanity. You can't bring yourself to say a single negative word about him. It's not for me to decide who is or isn't welcome here, but Gerrard apologists will have a hard time on here, this is a place where honesty is paramount and we won't take any revisionism. As the song says, we will have an enormous party when he croaks in.
 
Oh My ! Settle down petal.

I responded to Connor with a post stating the obvious, Zombies are Fictional, Paedophiles are real.

You then thought you would jump in and tell lies about Fenians, I merely corrected you and educated you and you went all precious took the huff.
You're better staying away from topics like Fenians, The IRA and other Irish Republican murder gangs because you clearly know nothing about the topic.


You're going on about religion and terrorists again, are you obsessed, this is a football forum and the thread topic is Rangers. get a grip.
You need to put that big spade away because you are digging a crater.

Now I am a bigot because I have continually corrected your utter stupidity.
Go and lie down in a dark room, you appear to be consumed with hatred and intolerance.
 
catcherintherye said:
Gerrard apologists will have a hard time on here, this is a place where honesty is paramount and we won't take any revisionism. As the song says, we will have an enormous party when he croaks in.
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WTF ?

Honesty you say ? Jesus wept, That's you [Poor language removed] then.

I haven't even mentioned Gerrard, you are clearly 30 bob short of a quid.
 
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