Current Affairs Rail strikes

[NorthernBlue]

Yes but we don't. And wishing it so doesn't make it be.

If your wider point is that rail workers et al should go on strike to cause disruption to the public as punishment for voting for Johnson and co, then that's an entirely different topic I suspect.

No not at all. But if people are striking, in part, against the government in general then that wouldn’t be surprising and should to be wholly supported by all working people. The ultimate aim for any working person is to get rid of this government. Only then can can any improvements to our services be a reality.

 

[Jebus_lives]

No not at all. But if people are striking, in part, against the government in general then that wouldn’t be surprising and should to be wholly supported by all working people. The ultimate aim for any working person is to get rid of this government. Only then can can any improvements to our services be a reality.

Isn't that the point that @Bruce Wayne is making...why would something that causes inconvenience to a vast majority of people be supported by those people when the benefit will only potentially be reaped by union members of that sector.

The hospitality sector is telling us that continued strike action, is hugely damaging to them but it still persists.

While I appreciate the role they do, the RMT aren't looking out for my interests with strike action. They're looking after their members interests, and rightly so, that's what their there for.

Don't misunderstand - I think the blame lies with government for their position across all sectors and for a refusal to negotiate, but the call to strike is a double edged sword.

 

[NorthernBlue]

Isn't that the point that @Bruce Wayne is making...why would something that causes inconvenience to a vast majority of people be supported by those people when the benefit will only potentially be reaped by union members of that sector.

The hospitality sector is telling us that continued strike action, is hugely damaging to them but it still persists.

While I appreciate the role they do, the RMT aren't looking out for my interests with strike action. They're looking after their members interests, and rightly so, that's what their there for.

Don't misunderstand - I think the blame lies with government for their position across all sectors and for a refusal to negotiate, but the call to strike is a double edged sword.

No Bruce threw a tantrum against striking rail workers because his in laws couldn’t fly over due to border patrol strikes.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Isn't that the point that @Bruce Wayne is making...why would something that causes inconvenience to a vast majority of people be supported by those people when the benefit will only potentially be reaped by union members of that sector.

The hospitality sector is telling us that continued strike action, is hugely damaging to them but it still persists.

While I appreciate the role they do, the RMT aren't looking out for my interests with strike action. They're looking after their members interests, and rightly so, that's what their there for.

Don't misunderstand - I think the blame lies with government for their position across all sectors and for a refusal to negotiate, but the call to strike is a double edged sword.

I'm fairly sure that GSTT is offering to put healthcare workers up in hotels if they can't get into work because of strike action. While I suspect that the numbers involved here will be pretty small, it still doesn't seem an ideal use of money when it's so tight.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I'm fairly sure that GSTT is offering to put healthcare workers up in hotels if they can't get into work because of strike action. While I suspect that the numbers involved here will be pretty small, it still doesn't seem an ideal use of money when it's so tight.

Might be better to buy those hotel rooms for additional bed capacity.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

No Bruce threw a tantrum against striking rail workers because his in laws couldn’t fly over due to border patrol strikes.

I refer the honourable gentlemen to the importance of slivovice

https://grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/elon-musk.103730/post-10211709

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Might be better to buy those hotel rooms for additional bed capacity.

It's the Hilton next to Waterloo, like, so probably wouldn't come cheap.

 

[Jebus_lives]

It's the Hilton next to Waterloo, like, so probably wouldn't come cheap.

I know that in times of emergency these things tend to be at reduced cost with a mutual benefit - NHS gets the room, Hilton get the publicity.

I'm not sure if it extends to this scenario though, but there was a lot of reciprocal arrangements during other major incidents.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I know that in times of emergency these things tend to be at reduced cost with a mutual benefit - NHS gets the room, Hilton get the publicity.

I'm not sure if it extends to this scenario though, but there was a lot of reciprocal arrangements during other major incidents.

Yeah, as far as I'm aware they haven't made this public knowledge. More just on the internal grapevine. Like I say, I'm not sure quite how many staff travel in by train, but it's near Waterloo East, which provides overground connectivity to a lot of South London so who knows.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Yeah, as far as I'm aware they haven't made this public knowledge. More just on the internal grapevine. Like I say, I'm not sure quite how many staff travel in by train, but it's near Waterloo East, which provides overground connectivity to a lot of South London so who knows.

I'd imagine it's not insignificant.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I'd imagine it's not insignificant.

Without reading anything into it, the nursing union failed to reach the required number for a second strike at the trust.

 

[catcherintherye]

I agree. But, and I think we should be mindful of this fact, the unions exist to further the interests of their members, not of the wider public.

A good deal for union members does not automatically equate to a good deal for the public.

I say this as a member of the public, but the union defeating this government would be good for everyone.

It's a woeful administration. I side with decent working people, over scum who go to homeless shelters and waffle on about getting jobs as investment bankers.

I hate them.

 

[roydo]

I say this as a member of the public, but the union defeating this government would be good for everyone.

It's a woeful administration. I side with decent working people, over scum who go to homeless shelters and waffle on about getting jobs as investment bankers.

I hate them.

Strong words mate. Unions should go on strike for their members, not to defeat a Government. (They never would anyrate). Would you support the strike if they were "trying to defeat" a Labour Government?

 

[catcherintherye]

Strong words mate. Unions should go on strike for their members, not to defeat a Government. (They never would anyrate). Would you support the strike if they were "trying to defeat" a Labour Government?

They are, and I'm not normally hateful, but Sunak at that homeless shelter just tipped me mate. I dont know why someone would want to do that to a fella clearly down on his luck. It seems sociopathic to me.

I think unions are on strike for their members, but a win would defeat the government.

Re Labour, if I felt they were in the right, and the government was in the wrong, I would support them. It depends on the situation really.

When the dockers went out on strike for Enoch Powell against a Tory government, I would have supported the government. You have to judge each on their merits for me.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I say this as a member of the public, but the union defeating this government would be good for everyone.

It's a woeful administration. I side with decent working people, over scum who go to homeless shelters and waffle on about getting jobs as investment bankers.

I hate them.

They wouldn't be defeating the government though. That's the problem.