ijjysmith
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A really crap one!!
Cahill leaving is still the only thing to happen, and that hasn't really 100% happened yet.
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A really crap one!!
Cahill leaving is still the only thing to happen, and that hasn't really 100% happened yet.
NewRadical
Player Valuation: £30m
That's the sad reality - for most clubs in a similar situation.
With funds at the club the way they are we are hardly in a postion to be stubborn and let him play out the rest of his contract.
Del
Ric Wee fan club member 2014
Moyes knew he had to sell a big player or move 2-3 fringe players on (Yes I no Johnny isent a fringe player but there is cover)
I think if Baines went to Utd Johnny wouldent be leaving but once he had knocked back Utd his time was up
Moyes needs money to bring in new faces, Cahill,Yobo and Johnny are the players he thinks he can scarifice without upsetting the balance of the team to much
I think if Baines went to Utd Johnny wouldent be leaving but once he had knocked back Utd his time was up
Moyes needs money to bring in new faces, Cahill,Yobo and Johnny are the players he thinks he can scarifice without upsetting the balance of the team to much
ijjysmith
Calm
That annoyingly makes sense!
Fenerbache seem to have not only tried to railroad Everton,but Yobo also.
From what Sheedy has said it looks as if they were prepared to dump Yobo for the chance of signing Heitinga.Unfortunately for them a player of Heitingas stature will not go to a club like Fenerbache or a second rate Turkish league.
Up to now it seemed to be Fenerbache and Yobo against Everton,maybe that has changed a little.
I think that bigger clubs in better leagues may now start to look at Heitinga,and maybe Yobos agent will have to start earning his living.
From what Sheedy has said it looks as if they were prepared to dump Yobo for the chance of signing Heitinga.Unfortunately for them a player of Heitingas stature will not go to a club like Fenerbache or a second rate Turkish league.
Up to now it seemed to be Fenerbache and Yobo against Everton,maybe that has changed a little.
I think that bigger clubs in better leagues may now start to look at Heitinga,and maybe Yobos agent will have to start earning his living.
bainesontoast
Player Valuation: £25m
Some stats from last season you may or may not find interesting:
Tackles: Jagielka 1.8 (55), Distin 1.6 (42), Heitinga 1.3 (40)
Interceptions: Distin 2.5 (67), Jagielka 2.1 (63), Heitinga 1.5 (44)
Offsides won: Heitinga 0.9 (26), Distin 0.9 (24), Jagielka 0.6 (18)
Clearances: Jagielka 7.6 (229), Distin 8 (215), Heitinga 5.4 (162)
Was dribbled: Heitinga 0.3 (10), Jagielka 0.3 (9), Distin 0.3 (7)
Blocks: Heitinga 1.1 (33), Distin 0.6 (17), Jagielka 0.5 (14)
Aeriel duels: Distin 2 (53/77), Jagielka 1.8 (54/75), Heitinga 0.8 (24/47)
(all figures per game)
So for as much as Heitinga is a war dog and throws his body in the way, which is obviously what the fans want to see from our players considering his POTS accolade, he was statistically the poorest of our first choice centre-backs last season in four key areas for a player of his position.
His aerial duel success rate of 52% in particular was very poor, yet he started both games v Stoke. Jagielka is only an inch taller yet his success rate is considerably better.
Don't get me wrong, he was a rock at the back end of last season, but I really don't think it's the end of the world if he leaves.
Tackles: Jagielka 1.8 (55), Distin 1.6 (42), Heitinga 1.3 (40)
Interceptions: Distin 2.5 (67), Jagielka 2.1 (63), Heitinga 1.5 (44)
Offsides won: Heitinga 0.9 (26), Distin 0.9 (24), Jagielka 0.6 (18)
Clearances: Jagielka 7.6 (229), Distin 8 (215), Heitinga 5.4 (162)
Was dribbled: Heitinga 0.3 (10), Jagielka 0.3 (9), Distin 0.3 (7)
Blocks: Heitinga 1.1 (33), Distin 0.6 (17), Jagielka 0.5 (14)
Aeriel duels: Distin 2 (53/77), Jagielka 1.8 (54/75), Heitinga 0.8 (24/47)
(all figures per game)
So for as much as Heitinga is a war dog and throws his body in the way, which is obviously what the fans want to see from our players considering his POTS accolade, he was statistically the poorest of our first choice centre-backs last season in four key areas for a player of his position.
His aerial duel success rate of 52% in particular was very poor, yet he started both games v Stoke. Jagielka is only an inch taller yet his success rate is considerably better.
Don't get me wrong, he was a rock at the back end of last season, but I really don't think it's the end of the world if he leaves.
Blackwatch1878
Player Valuation: £950k
Well they have let most screw us over in the past , commercially to ("That`ll do , yeh") , so whats the problem with this yobo deal like , Shame they couldn't of haggled this long on the sale of the Worlds youngest & hottest a property in world football at the time wayne rooney
meagher94
Player Valuation: £35m
Strange looking at those stats.
To me Jagielka looked off the pace a bit last season whereas I thought Johnny was playing blinders week-in-week-out. These stats seem to say pretty much the opposite!
Wonder what the comparitive statistics for hoofballs and balls played out of defence to another Everton player would be?
I'm with you mate. He had a decent 6 months and I don't want to sell anyone. But with Jags-Distin-Duffy there is cover their and if it released money to buy Pienaar and a right midfielder I'd sell him. I am amazed still he won fans player of the year.
bainesontoast
Player Valuation: £25m
Jagielka gets a fair amount of stick around here from what I've read but it looks like he's gone about his business very quietly. I would pick him every week too if I was Moyes.
Ask and you shall receive:
Long balls (Hoofballs): Jagielka 6.6 (197/343), Heitinga 4.7 (140/231), Distin: 2.4 (65/139)
Can't get hold of balls being played out of defence, but Johnny did have the highest pass success rate to his credit.
Yeah, important to remember Duffy in the equation too. He's showing more than enough signs that he can make the first team grade, probably not as a regular starter just yet though.
I was surprised with Johnny's win too.
Royal Blue Jersey
Player Valuation: £35m
Selling Heitinga would be just yet another footnote in the disgraceful chapter of our history that this 25 year decline has been.
We know our transfer policy is a genuine joke and the fees involved are always the punchline: £10 million for Arteta, £2 million for Pienaar, £2 million for Yakubu and now £5 million for Heitinga? Ridiculous
We know our transfer policy is a genuine joke and the fees involved are always the punchline: £10 million for Arteta, £2 million for Pienaar, £2 million for Yakubu and now £5 million for Heitinga? Ridiculous
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BlueToffee95
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Still, the Johnny/Jagielka partnership looked the strongest, and my only worry is Distin's age and knack of stupid decisions. I wouldn't want to be solely relying on Duffy to fill Johnny's boots, so if we were to sell, we need to be getting at least £7 mil to (hopefully) put towards another centre back of similar quality (that Kjaer from Wolfsburg maybe if he's still available). But, the thing is, if Johnny (at least for now) is reasonably happy (why wouldn't he be he's on £50+ k a week!) and no offers that could at least get us a decent replacement come in, why sell? FFS Everton!
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