Project restart discussion.

[Tramps_mate]

As soon as any football matches take place then as far as I’m concerned everyone will be free to get on with life.

I think the vast majority of the uk have followed the rules regardless of how hard it’s been.

However:

There is no way the government are telling me to stay indoors and stay 2 metres away from people while at the same time allowing a contact sport to take place.

Makes no odds on testing as you can catch Covid an hour after being tested. Athletes are one of the groups at risk due to their reduced immune systems. Wonder how they can come up with a believable reason to allow a game of football to go ahead.

So I’m just waiting for boris to fire the starting gun for a free for all.

Money. And half of our football clubs going bust.

 

[BlueShark]

What an utter tosser Holt is.

 

[Tramps_mate]

If they do this ridiculous behind closed doors, then every club should be forced to refund that proportion of season ticket money.

If it’s voided, I’m quite happy to lose that amount, as it’s a force majeure.

If they play the games, but don’t allow entry to people who’ve paid, they should be liable to repay that money.

They can easily do that as it's nothing compared to the money they'll have to 'refund' to the TV companies if they don't finish the season. Hopefully the players refuse to play.

 

[marsh]

EFL will go soon and probably use a points per game for promotions seeing 23 teams in the premier league next season I reckon

 

[PhilM]

You only need to look at a split of the PL table into home and away fixtures to see how it can be advantageous for some teams to play at home.

Playing at home is advantageous to some clubs and to remove that may impact on their fortunes.

When things aren't going their way, they again use their position in the media to manipulate by sowing division and shifting the blame. "It's Everton's fault..."

I wonder where we've heard this before. Ah well, it doesn't surprise me that he's been employed by the Mail on Sunday because it's at his level of ramblings.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

So the premier league want to invest in machines costing £36000 each to test players and staff prior to restart.

The NHS dont want the machines for reasons of cost and the fact that they allow you to perform only 7 tests a day.

Lampard reckons a days training at Cobham is an 80 man operation.

Theres a slight disconnect there...

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Oliver Holt is a Kopite pretending to be a Stockport County fan

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Oliver Holt is a Kopite pretending to be a Stockport County fan

The special place in Oliver's heart he reserves for Liverpool is very much in tact and grows larger every day. I know he's a Stockport fan and did always support City in Manchester but he's always thought Liverpool very special to him too.

Noone really (when serious) thinks voiding a realistic option but curtailing the season is a no brainer.

It seems to me Oliver is letting his heart rule his head, he wrote last week how grossly unfair voiding is, especially in denying Liverpool (and Leeds). I very much agree (in football terms), but there may be a far bigger picture outside this football bubble as a sports writer he seems to be ( or has to be) preoccupied with, and curtailment, not restarting, has to be safer. Playoffs and ppg formulas may be unfair (not as much as voiding) but there's a much bigger real life context to this. Football just doesn't really matter in this situation!


Frank Lampard, the Chelsea manager, said that testing of Premier League players for Covid-19 should not impact on tests for NHS and front-line workers. He told BT Sport: “When we talk about the testing that we’re going to be doing, we’re going to have 70 or 80 staff minimum if we’re going to restart training, and if we’re going to test regularly, that’s fine.

“But when we’re looking around the world, I don’t know the testing numbers for NHS and care workers and people that do these incredible jobs over the last two months or so. I don’t think it would sit well with me or anyone if we didn’t make sure people were being tested who are in that front line.

“I think it’s important for football to take its place. After that we probably have the integrity issue, neutral venues, out-of-contract players, of which we have a couple of major players, so there are many conversations and I think that’s very clear at the minute.”

 

[Kurt.]

West Ham saying they are not happy to play at neutral grounds as it compromises the integrity of the league.

I wish a team would just come out and say they shouldn’t be playing at all as it isn’t safe to do so.

 

[arch stanton]

The special place in Oliver's heart he reserves for Liverpool is very much in tact and grows larger every day. I know he's a Stockport fan and did always support City in Manchester but he's always thought Liverpool very special to him too.

Noone really (when serious) thinks voiding a realistic option but curtailing the season is a no brainer.

It seems to me Oliver is letting his heart rule his head, he wrote last week how grossly unfair voiding is, especially in denying Liverpool (and Leeds). I very much agree (in football terms), but there may be a far bigger picture outside this football bubble as a sports writer he seems to be ( or has to be) preoccupied with, and curtailment, not restarting, has to be safer. Playoffs and ppg formulas may be unfair (not as much as voiding) but there's a much bigger real life context to this. Football just doesn't really matter in this situation!


Frank Lampard, the Chelsea manager, said that testing of Premier League players for Covid-19 should not impact on tests for NHS and front-line workers. He told BT Sport: “When we talk about the testing that we’re going to be doing, we’re going to have 70 or 80 staff minimum if we’re going to restart training, and if we’re going to test regularly, that’s fine.

“But when we’re looking around the world, I don’t know the testing numbers for NHS and care workers and people that do these incredible jobs over the last two months or so. I don’t think it would sit well with me or anyone if we didn’t make sure people were being tested who are in that front line.

“I think it’s important for football to take its place. After that we probably have the integrity issue, neutral venues, out-of-contract players, of which we have a couple of major players, so there are many conversations and I think that’s very clear at the minute.”

Mate, what really is unfair is that 28000 people (and that figure is rising by over five Hillsboroughs per day) won't be alive to see another sunrise. Football needs to pipe down, sort its shizzle out behind closed doors, then do wha tit can to HELP the situation the rest of the world is trying to address.

 

[havrey0123]

West Ham saying they are not happy to play at neutral grounds as it compromises the integrity of the league.

I wish a team would just come out and say they shouldn’t be playing at all as it isn’t safe to do so.

How can you send kids back to school and adults back to work in 3 weeks time but say to footballers it isn't safe to do so.

 

[Kurt.]

How can you send kids back to school and adults back to work in 3 weeks time but say to footballers it isn't safe to do so.

Here he is .... Harvey wallbanger.

How is it safe to play football when you have to line up 6 feet apart to buy a tin of beans ??

 

[arch stanton]

How can you send kids back to school and adults back to work in 3 weeks time but say to footballers it isn't safe to do so.

I've been working throughout, I practice social distancing at work. My daughter does the same at school. Neither of us have to exhale large amounts of potentially Covid19 laden air in doing this. To suggest one can safely play a contact sport where the social distancing can't be applied and large amounts of potentially Covid19 laden air are expelled whilst in close proximity to others is ludicrous.

Not only that, whilst I am important to me and my family, I accept that I am a nobody. Footballers are worth an awful lot of money, much less if they die after contracting Covid19 or if their lungs are rendered useless for professional sort after infection with Covid19.

 

[havrey0123]

I've been working throughout, I practice social distancing at work. My daughter does the same at school. Neither of us have to exhale large amounts of potentially Covid19 laden air in doing this. To suggest one can safely play a contact sport where the social distancing can't be applied and large amounts of potentially Covid19 laden air are expelled whilst in close proximity to others is ludicrous.

Not only that, whilst I am important to me and my family, I accept that I am a nobody. Footballers are worth an awful lot of money, much less if they die after contracting Covid19 or if their lungs are rendered useless for professional sort after infection with Covid19.

As more people go back to work social distancing won't be easy to do especially in small offices or spaces. Kids in school will still come near each other when in the playground

 

[arch stanton]

As more people go back to work social distancing won't be easy to do especially in small offices or spaces. Kids in school will still come near each other when in the playground

There's a difference between something not being easy but it being a necessary evil, and needlessly taking risks/putting oneself in harms way. FYI, the current science is that children are lower transmission vehicles than adults and if infected, suffer less severe symptoms.