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We are all over the place at the back and have been for most the of season. We will concede from a set pieces. It's bleeding obvious to as an amateur that opposing teams go out to win the free kicks knowing full well our players will oblige in the foul in the first place and then won't defend it with any conviction. The back is a huge problem, either we are pushed high and long ball over the top, or it just flaps when pressed, it's just awful.

As for Wolves, not the first team to over achieve, let's see in season 2 and 3. Is it sustainable, if so they can dish out the humble pie.
 
Honestly never seen so much hyperbolic garbage than what’s been written about the difference between EFC and Wolves since the game on Saturday.
Yeah agreed. You’d think they’d taught us a footballing lesson rather than being gifted a couple of goals and being able to hold a toothless attack at bay. There was little between the teams in general play, but they took their chances and we didn’t.

They’re a decent side, as anyone with more than a passing interest in football knew they would be when they came up. It makes me laugh that some of their fans now think they’ve progressed past us though, as if they’re not the millionth club to come up with big plans that don’t always work out.
 
Can’t help but feel sorry for Silva. As much as I want him gone, the players cannot be excuse of some utter coward performance. Pressing, tracking, sprint back to retrieve the ball after losing possession, all these not requiring any gifted technical ability and yet so lacking.
 
Can’t help but feel sorry for Silva. As much as I want him gone, the players cannot be excuse of some utter coward performance. Pressing, tracking, sprint back to retrieve the ball after losing possession, all these not requiring any gifted technical ability and yet so lacking.

I look at the players every game and rate them out if 10. The amount of players who week in week out put in 4/5/6 out of 10 week in week out is shocking. That's to do with not pressing, not tracking bsck, not being switched on, basics of football.

Watch Coleman for that goal on Saturday, not once did he turn to see where Jimenez was and wasn't set for when the free kick was taken. If he'd just taken a look he could have told Rico the next man along to be ready and ensure one of them blocks or tracks the run. It's just basic defending done so poorly.
 
I see absolutely no issue with what he's said, though.

Yeh, he's been crap lately, but it's only what we've all said about this bunch of sh****** players. They turn as soon as the going gets tough. Nobody shows any fight. Doesn't matter what manager is - most of these are now on their fourth manager in 18 months.
 
I look at the players every game and rate them out if 10. The amount of players who week in week out put in 4/5/6 out of 10 week in week out is shocking. That's to do with not pressing, not tracking bsck, not being switched on, basics of football.

Watch Coleman for that goal on Saturday, not once did he turn to see where Jimenez was and wasn't set for when the free kick was taken. If he'd just taken a look he could have told Rico the next man along to be ready and ensure one of them blocks or tracks the run. It's just basic defending done so poorly.

Exactly, and I'm sick of ALL the blame on the manager from a lot of fans.

I ain't saying Silva's good enough. At the moment he's proving to be a pretty one-dimensional manager, and it's crap.

But I'm fed up of these players making the same mistakes and getting away with it. I'm glad Silva's dug them out, while at least accepting it's his responsibility as well.
 
Some damning pieces tonight.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...emier-League-club-worse-business-Everton.html

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...marco-silva-players-consistent-premier-league

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...erton-could-do-worse-look-wolves-inspiration/

Under-fire Marco Silva and Everton could do worse than look to Wolves for inspiration

There was sneering aplenty when Wolves recruited their personal super-agent to assist Premier League promotion. Now there should be admiration to accompany the envy.

No matter how curious or worthy of investigation Jorge Mendes' influence at Molineux, Wolves have created an impressive team with smart recruitment, preserving Premier League status this season and potentially securing European qualification.
Others in the Premier League with money and high-powered contacts ought to be asking questions of themselves more than authorities when observing how the Molineux hierarchy executed their plan. Everton’s majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri – a businessman with plenty of super-agents and agencies of his own on speed dial– should have more self-reflection than most after this weekend’s result.

How and why did Wolves manage to do it so much better than him?
Everton have spent more than Wolves since Moshiri moved to Goodison, yet where Nuno Espirito Santos’ side showed their class in every position to win 3-1, the hosts are bereft of quality. Regardless of how much they benefited from Everton’s mistakes, Wolves were well-balanced, confident and at ease with everything demanded of them as Ruben Neves, Raul Jimenez and Leander Dendoncker secured a comfortable victory.

There are snippets of Goodison promise in the midfield quality of goalscorer Andre Gomes – worryingly only a loan purchase – but the lack of attacking spark and lapses in concentration at the back means performances such as this are frequent.

Now Marco Silva finds himself in the same territory as Ronald Koeman and Roberto Martinez. He arrived as a young manager of repute hearing the right noises about patience and long-term planning. Now he accepts questions are being asked about his position.

“Of course I understand that. I am not here to find excuses or whine about something, of course I understand there will be questions about me,” said Silva.

“When everything goes well, they say good things about the manager and when something is wrong it is normal as well that the manager gets pressure.
“It is a normal question when you have this type of job. For me it is something that you know happens, to be honest with you.”
Whether Silva genuinely has the tools to match Everton’s lofty ambitions .
If Moshiri sacks another coach – thus admitting he made another poor appointment - it says more about his lack of judgement and inability to get big decisions right. He did enough due diligence on Silva before selecting him. Where would he turn next? Moshiri bowed to the fans’ demand to sack Koeman only to expose his lack of forward planning by appointing the unpalatable Sam Allardyce. This does little to support the idea he has another top class manager in mind should results go badly for Silva over the next few games.

Such responsibilities have since been delegated to director of football Marcel Brands, but the Dutchman would be advised to dedicate his time finding a centre forward with strength, pace and eye for goal ahead of next season, on top of a vocal, organising presence in defence. In the short-term, another coach will walk into the training ground and encounter the same problems as Silva, not least the pitiful contribution of last January’s expensive panic buys Theo Walcott and Cenk Tosun.

Everton’s ongoing failure to deal with set-pieces – they sloppily conceded the crucial second on the stroke of half time when Jimenez was left unmarked – means Silva must accept his responsibility.

“My job is to show them clearly what they are doing, and what they are doing wrong on the pitch,” said Silva.
“To help them know why and understand why, even if you prepare and understand the plan, you are doing always the same mistakes.
“I am upset with the performance and with the result, but more with the mistakes because after you give them gifts you have to react more than we did. We are always giving our opponents many, many things.”

History might determine the Everton job is too much for Silva, but there is a debilitating trend since Moshiri arrived. For so long Everton were stable, hovering just below the top four with Spurs, often a good signing or two from challenging for a Champions League place.

Now, including David Unsworth’s caretaker stint, they are on their 5th manager in three years since Moshiri invested.
This failure is on him as much as anyone, the contrasting fortunes of Everton and Wolves further proof that in the Premier League, money only has value when escorted by wisdom.

Again it appears to me he is blaming the players and not looking at his own tactics and strategy.
 
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